Carolyn's and all, I would really like to caution you about critiquing from photos. Having gone to x-ray school and worked in imaging anatomy for years, I know as a photographer (of anatomy) that if I am not shooting dead straight on 100% I can shorten and elongate bones and anatomy. I can distort many things using different angles that I shoot from. Even subtle angles. With photography unless you know a picture was taken straight on 100% you most definitely are not seeing the true anatomy of a dog. I realize what your saying is important and the photography aspect is not the whole idea of your conversation but everytime I hear someone critique from photos I feel compelled to let them know you can do many many things with photography including distorting or making something look better than it really is. Amy Safdir Almanya Shepherds www.almanyagsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx> To: <SoilentGrn@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shoulders....and.... > All this discussion about shoulder......and it really is simple.... > As Carolyn McKenna originally stated. First look at the lack of angles > in the > posed photos. Many shoulders....or UPPER ARMS are angled straight up > from the > elbow joint, & the neck comes up off the shoulder blade at a perpendicular > angle. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================