Hi, I just wanted to send you guys a quick Thank You for having discussions on subjects like these; I am working so hard to get a firm grasp of what correct movement and structure is. I joined the GSDCA in 2001, and what I learn everyday is amazing. Recently my mentor and I started to use the Review as a way to go over each dog piece by piece to help teach me. We write emails referring to the page number of the dog and I give my impression, and then she (usually) corrects me :))), but I seem to be getting better. I usually don't have ANY time to write on the List but I do try to read most of it, so again THANK YOU, I am ALL TOO willing to learn. Catherine Morton Msg: #1 in digest From: "D.D. and Bonnie Ardoin" Subject: Re: Shoulders opening - where are they? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:26:59 -0500 I replied to Daleen`s post before I read Sean`s post. He said it better then I did. D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "PlushPuppyOhio" To: ; Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shoulders opening - where are they? > Thank you! Watch where the foot touches ground....not how far it reaches in mid-air. I know there is a lot more to it than that... but it's just one way of trying to get people to see movement differently. Some dogs appear to have their foot way out in front of their nose (when played in slow motion.... one benefit of the National tapes) but when that dog actually touches ground.... the foot is back behind the jaw bone somewhere in it's neck-line. > > That's not a good front. How can that dog even begin to cover ground? > > Sean > > > > Daleen Dunphy wrote:More and more I have been noticing ads in the Review, pics on web sites > and/or people posting pics of their dogs gaiting showing no shoulder opening. > > I am seeing dogs lifting/moving out from their elbows. I hear/read some say > "look at that front" only because they are seeing the dogs foot out by > (pass) the dogs nose. > > Are these fronts becoming so much of the norm that people believe this to > be correct? > > A couple of months ago there was a photo in the Review of a dog gaiting. I > just had to show this pic to my son to see if he noticed it. Sure enough > he pointed out and said " the leg is sticking out from the elbow and it > doesn't look like the elbow has even moved". My young grasshopper is learning > well > > I know judging dogs from pics can be very hard and so much of what we see > as in the movement depends on the second of the gait when the photo is > taken - and I know getting the pic at the right time showing the dog > fully opened (when they are correct) is not easy. But I sure would rather > see the "correct" than a wrong timing of movement leaving > people going "hmmmm". > > ok off my soap box > > Daleen > Catherine Morton LVT, AHT Mana Shepherds and hobby farm Secretary, German Shepherd Dog Club of Upstate SC www.upstategsd.com "Blessed is the person who has earned the love of an old dog" - Sidney Jeanne Seward --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================