Like she said! I stay up until 11 or so JUST to get them out their last runabout... and I'm not a "friendly" sleeper. So they leave me be.... I get up way too early, let them out, even feed them and let them out again.. THEN back to bed for me, and "quiet time" for them. They've learned that "I don't do mornings!!!" "-) Exceptions made for emergencies, but they better not be "crying wolf." :-) S On Mar 9, 2009, at 5:45:55 PM, "sheila lieberman" <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Ok, as long as we are talking starting the day, My dogs would never ever get so close to me in bed that I would feel them physically. However, the sense of urgency is palpable right about 6:15 to 6:30. Every now and then I can stay in bed till 7. But I also have trained them that I will go back to bed most of the time and they have to let me. sheila -- Stormy Hope www,carpoc.org AKC Legislative Liaison, GSDCA GSDs, and more, clubs ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================