She either lied on the registrations or she lied when she told some people she incorporated other breeds. I remember her going around to GSD BYBs and buying up (extra large) coated puppies. I don't worry about it. Plenty of fools out there looking to part with their money. A buyer does, after all, have to take some responsibility for whatever they purchase. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 12/27/2014 12:40:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Tina still had AKC papers on the Shilohs she showed with ARBA, as late as 1995 or 1996. I was at the ARBA Board meeting when she was told she had to give up AKC papers in order to show with ARBA any further. So, how did she have AKC papers on dogs whose history claims a mixture of breeds??????