If u go to the web pages and look at the smooth coat shilohs, then u will seee that they DO look like the gsd of old. I've looked at the long coated ones' and they DOlook like gsd's just bigger!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <CheradonGSD@xxxxxxx> To: <epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shiloh Shepherd REAL Origin > > In a message dated 3/21/2007 10:33:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, > epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > The first one I saw was in Germany in 1971..so not something new....if you > talked to their owner you found out they were the FIRST German Shepherds. > Sometimes books and people don't tell the WHOLE story > > > ummmm--I think these dogs are rather "interesting" but I find it very hard > to believe they are anything like "the FIRST German shepherds". If someone > can PROVE it to me-I "may" become a believer. I personally LOVE the long > coats--and their colors are striking--but they dont look ANYTHING like ANY of the > dogs in any of my pedigrees going all the way back to the late 1800's. > And my dogs are all of the so called "American Show Lines"--and I HAVE > traced a couple of my pedigrees back to SZ-1 Horand von Grafrath > Born: January 1st, 1895 > First registered German Shepherd Dog in Germany. > Bought and registered by Captain von Stephanitz > _Horand v Grafrath_ (http://gsdca.org/GSDReviewed/hdogs/HorandGrafrath.html) > > and his subsequent offspring--NONE of them look ANYTHING like the huge long > coated dogs in any of these pics on these websites of the ALTDEUTSCHE > SCHAFERHUNDE . > (And-----In fact--I have seen "Shiloh Shepherds" at a couple matches--and > "rare breed shows--and NONE of them look like the ALTDEUTSCHE SCHAFERHUNDE in > these sites either. In fact--the ones I saw--and Ms Tina Barber herself was > judging--were in fact SMALLER than a large male GSD I had at the time. (and > he was not HUGE--just a large boy-prob 27 in tall.) > > Cheri Hunt----Cheradon Shepherds > Home of Ch. Cheradon AchtungErynbrook Molokai, TC, OFA H&E, PA,TH,CA, Eyes > Cert. and Certificate of Health Merit Excellent from the GSDCA (aka Ch. Mikey) > _Ch. Mikey_ (http://hometown.aol.com/cheradongsd/MS_PI/111603/page1.htm) > and his sister, Cameo --see her here: _Cameo's site_ > (http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/CheradonGSD/MS_PI/091502/page1.htm) > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================