In a message dated 3/22/2007 1:30:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, CheradonGSD@xxxxxxx writes: --were in fact SMALLER than a large male GSD I had at the time. (and When I went to a rare breed show with my Ben, they all ran over and were talking about the HUGE Shiloh and where did I get him. For those of you who did not get to meet Ben, he was a 31 1/2 inch (I know- they measured him at the Shiloh show) and 136 pound (not fat) GSD, proudly AKC registered GSD not a Shiloh and he was far bigger than ANY dog they had there. Now the bone on their dogs was thick (I personally love a larger boned dog) but our GSDs that are coated usually (in my exposure) also have heavier bone or it looks so as their legs are fluffier LOL What turned me off the most was attending their annual board meeting the evening of the show. After all I had heard about their validity as a breed because of years of genetic registry and stable breeding they were discussing bringing another breed into the dog to improve it. Now, I may be wrong but I thought for a dog to be a true breed and not a breed in the making or basically mixed breed is that the dog has been bred to their like dog (same breed) for 5 generations or something like that. Actually several of the breeders approached me about breeding to Ben. Now, I looked at them funny as they obviously had not taken a good look at my neutered boy LOL Then they wanted to know where I got him. I never gave the Shiloh another look and YEAH ended up instead with my TC. Oh the times I wish TC and Ben were here today :0) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================