That majestic shepherd was CH. Campaigner's Gunsmoke, OFA who was bought from me after he won his Futurity by Jimmy Moses and Fred Migliore. How he got into Tina's hands I have no idea but I was royally &*()(**)(_)(_)+) when I saw that years later. I wish I had been asked if I wanted him back. He produced Champions before he went to her. Still mad after all these years. Joan >________________________________ > From: Penny & Bill <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: barbara17236@xxxxxxx; Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx; scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx; >arcturusgermanshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:25 AM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shiloh Shepherd > > >I lived about an hour away from Tina in the 70s-80s and she had quite a few >AKC German shepherds, before she re-invented herself and called the breed >"Shilohs." Shiloh was originally her kennel name. She had a gorgeous >champion named Gunsmoke that somebody let her have and I remember thinking >that even in his senior years, that dog was MAJESTIC. Tina was subsequently >thrown out of the AKC because, I think, she was saying all her puppies were >sired by "Smoke," which they were not. Someone blew her in, which was a >GOOD thing. Fred Lanting judged a match there and he gave a lecture on HD. >He was stumping for his then new book on HD. I was there. NO ONE health >tested back then--just x-rayed hips. I still remember how beautiful that >champion was--the look of eagles! > >Penny in NC >The Farm Dog Forever >Landsend Kennels > > >The Shiloh Shepherd became plagued with so many health issues (reason the >King Shepherd came about) that they should be doing all that "extra" >testing. I believe the Shiloh breed is in better hands now, and these >breeders want the Shiloh to thrive. > >Too bad the founder didn't do all those health tests in the beginning. > > >Barb Hively - PA >DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd > > > >I can remember as recent as the 80s she was buying oversized, coated GSDs >from anybody that would sell her one (Linda Brown). Then there was a whole >big dust up in their ranks...rumors of different breeds brought in, could >be shown in this venue but not that...years ago (80s?), i didn't follow it >all that closely, maybe someone can fill in the blanks. My overall >impression was just a big, shaggy GSD w/ no type, often questionable >temperament. > >After the dust up, to my way of thinking, things improved. Still >waaaayyyyyy oversized, but some are typey and temperament has certainly >improved. > >I will say this, the Shilo people I have encountered on various >reproductive lists put very many our GSD breeders to shame with all of the >health >testing they do before they consider breeding anything. TO SHAME! My >goodness >they test the hell out of those dogs and boy do they spend money on all >things reproductive...freezing/implants, not just progesterone but LH...and >I'm >thinking for what? I mean they have their own registry...I has to be a >passion and kudos to them for the extensive health testing. > >On a personal note, funny story sort of, Solo has a long coated brother. >The first time the family took him to be groomed, the groomer insisted he >was a Shilo. Anyway...I thought it was funny. > >Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC >Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions >visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ > >Founder was Tina Barber and yes she did pass away. > >http://www.shilohshepherds.info/tinaBarberBio.htm > >Theresa > > >===========================================================================>POST > is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original >author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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