I can remember as recent as the 80s she was buying oversized, coated GSDs from anybody that would sell her one (Linda Brown). Then there was a whole big dust up in their ranks...rumors of different breeds brought in, could be shown in this venue but not that...years ago (80s?), i didn't follow it all that closely, maybe someone can fill in the blanks. My overall impression was just a big, shaggy GSD w/ no type, often questionable temperament. After the dust up, to my way of thinking, things improved. Still waaaayyyyyy oversized, but some are typey and temperament has certainly improved. I will say this, the Shilo people I have encountered on various reproductive lists put very many our GSD breeders to shame with all of the health testing they do before they consider breeding anything. TO SHAME! My goodness they test the hell out of those dogs and boy do they spend money on all things reproductive...freezing/implants, not just progesterone but LH...and I'm thinking for what? I mean they have their own registry...I has to be a passion and kudos to them for the extensive health testing. On a personal note, funny story sort of, Solo has a long coated brother. The first time the family took him to be groomed, the groomer insisted he was a Shilo. Anyway...I thought it was funny. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 5/17/2013 9:14:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx writes: Founder was Tina Barber and yes she did pass away. http://www.shilohshepherds.info/tinaBarberBio.htm Theresa On Fri, 5/17/13, Sue Tomlinson <arcturusgermanshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: about their new Shiloh Shepherd puppy. At first it made me laugh since any Shiloh Shepherd person I ever ran into always wants t know how big my AKC Shepherd is. As my friend Kathy says " Why? you want to eat him?" Anyway, I looked it up and was surprised at how impressive their advertising is. Anyway, it got me to thinking...who was the 'founder" of the breed? Didn't she pass away a few years ago? There are many claims within the advertising of "foundation" dogs. Just wondering... Sue T ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================