[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sheila's Post
- From: Shofar Shepherds <shofar_k9s@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:33:00 -0800 (PST)
Kathy, it's perfectly okay that we don't see eye-to-eye on this as long as the
dog comes out all right in the end. But just so we're understanding each
other, I often go to a home several times a week. In my opinion, and here I
agree with Shelia, once there is a working relationship established between
owner and dog, and the dog understands the basic commands, then it is time for
distraction training -- in a GOOD class, if available. And like at-home
trainers, there are the good and the bad.
I see where you're coming from on having a trainer use a dog for demo purposes.
My experience has shown me that owners often become frustrated when they don't
'get' what is being taught, and they often blame the dog. "He's stupid." or
"He's stubborn". As you so correctly pointed out, you and me and 99% of this
list could put hands on a green dog and have it working in five minutes.
Sometimes an owner has to see his own dog doing well before realizing that it
is they, and not the dog, that has the problem.
Leslye Morrow
Shofar Shepherds and Shelties
http://www.geocities.com/shofar_k9s
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From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: shofar_k9s@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2007 7:17:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sheila's Post
In a message dated 3/2/2007 9:33:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
shofar_k9s@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Just so we're clear....a six week old puppy, IMHO, should still be with mama
and siblings.
Kathy here: No, where I was getting the six weeks wasn't the age of the puppy.
You had mentioned "very young puppy" in your original post then when
discussing course of training one visits at $75 then 405 at $35 to get the
going in the right direction. If you went 1x a week, that'd be 6 weeks.
A lot would depend on the new owner as far as what is needed. My clientelle is
John Ignorant Shouldn't-have-a-bicycle-much-less-a-dog. When I go out for the
very young puppy, I set them up in a way that the puppy cannot develop any bad
habits that need to be broken. It is teaching them all the stuff we do now
without thinking. This includes inducive basic training: sit, come, stand,
down, stay, walking on a lead without pulling as well as basic house mannars.
Once the puppy understands the commands it's fine to go to classes for
distraction training.
I'm with you on the puppy play time, unless the puppies are all of the same age
and size, and are carefully supervised.
Why would you think that handing a leash to a trainer would automatically mean
a correction for the dog? Just curious.
Correction doesn't automatically mean reprimand. Even if it looks pleasant,
even if it's mild redirection of a particular behavior, handing a dog to a
third party and allowing them to demonstrate and achieve whatever it is they're
doing is a form of correction for a dog. I just don't go there. Besides not
being fair to the dog, what does it achieve in the long run? You and I and 99%
of the people on this list could walk into someone's home and get a dog to
"mind", or take a green dog in class and prove the dog can do the desired
activity and when we walk out the door, or hand the leash back to the owner
"poof" goes the desired behavior. So, I prefer "demo" dogs. The owner may
struggle with the achieving the behavior at first, but I think it's worth it.
JMHO
Kathy
member GSDCA, DVGSDC
three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here!
visit Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs
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