Lee....what does that mean?...mein Deutch ist nicht sher gut...lol...FB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liane Fossland" <lfossland@xxxxxxx> To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx, lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:22:57 AM Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information Geeze, I guess we have to hire a permanent Babysitter for Blumenjunge. Es ist noch eine lange Zeit bis Juli! Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:11 PM To: lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; InquestGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information Mike!.....are we allowed to show our deceased dogs?...maybe I can win now!........wonder how much Basu will charge for a dead dog...lol...if the Raiders would have lost like the 49ers did yesterday, I would not be in such a fine mood...lol....yes Lee, you never know what I'll say next......the problem is that I don't know either..Blumenjunge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindenhill German Shepherds" <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx Cc: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:55:11 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information oh yah, been there. We arrived at a dog show, and were offerred condolences, wondereing what they were talking about, we asked what they had heard. Of course the shock was theres when we exhibited the deceased dog and went breed that day. Turned out to have been authored by one of our competitors, guess they needed an edge Learn who your friends are * my personal mantra - constantly resist being put in a box - of any kind ** ----- Original Message ----- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx To: Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:11:28 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information Well, been there. After someone who professes to LOVE Dexter went around telling people he torsioned, we were put on the spotlight. Dexter in fact did not torsion, he did have surgery to remove a blockage in his intestine, courtesy of an action figure that belong to the kids next door. Not sure if it was Batman, but that's what the remains looked like. This "loving" person never talked to us. This person only heard Dexter had surgery, so obviously it had to be torsion. That was in July, a couple of years ago, and he went Select that following September. He was cleared to get back to road working and training after 17 days, although he had to stay on a different diet, that was gentler on his intestines, for 3 months. Imagine the face on this "loving" person when confronted. I have no tolerance for BS. We have had dogs that have bloated/torsioned. We know what to look for, and � after watching the pain my children went thru after losing their loving pets, there is no way I could knowingly breed an animal that has produced this condition. But it takes two. So if a dog dies of this condition, and progeny dies of this condition, and littermates dies of this condition, I don't need a genetic study to tell me this is a dog to avoid. Its called common � sense. But who cares?? A top winning dog producing mega/torsion/thyroid and DM issues will be a top producer because the puppies sell. That's seems to be where we are, disgustingly. And yes, I believe these four to be the biggest problems. Strictly speaking of health. Don't believe everything you hear. Sometimes is just BS. Sometimes is jealousy. Sometimes in competition. Speak to the owners and consider the source (or sources). Ileana In a message dated 1/23/2012 8:41:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > I don't share your concern re honest breeders. Maybe I just hang with > a group of really ethical folks but when I have asked the right > questions, I've gotten the right (and brutally honest) answers. I'm glad you have, but then again I didn't mention honest breeders(which we seem to have so few of) and you are located in the hot bed of mis-information. > The trouble as I see it is that some people don't ask. > Ahh yes, this is so true. 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