[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information
- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- To: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 07:00:32 -0500 (EST)
Good post Paulette:)
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 1/23/2012 5:32:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Morgan writes: "Might make that have/had autoimmune diseases; if everyone
"tacks" their animals how are you going to know, what might have
happened??"
Morgan, tacking does not prevent bloat. It just gives one more time to
get the dog to the vet because it often, but not always, prevents gastric
volvulus. Bloat without volvulus can be, and often is, fatal. Seeing how the
only thing tacking may do is prevent a bloated stomach from twisting, I
don't how tacking keeps one from knowing what "might have happened." One
knows what might have happened... The dog might have torsioned as well as
bloated. Except in rare cases, the dog bloats and then the stomach twists,
not the other way around. Volvulus is a *consequence* of gastric bloating,
so I've never understood the reasoning behind the statement Morgan has
made. And he's not the only one who has made such a statement.
In general, I'm not a proponent of prophylactic tacking; however, if I
neuter/spay a GSD, I will ask that they be tacked at that time. I also ask
that a "belt-loop" pexy be performed as that is the strongest pexy. From
experience, I can say that this pexy does not add that much to the overall
recovery time. One more thing, a "belt-loop" pexy should only be performed by
a Board Certified Surgeon or someone with *extensive* experience. In the
case of an emergency surgery for bloat/torsion, and the Vet is not
experienced in performing the belt-loop pexy, the stomach should be tacked on
the
right side to the abdominal wall. NEVER agree to a "mid line" pexy. That
is the "cheap" way out and is often recommended by Vets without much
surgical experience. This is the weakest of the pexy techniques. Also, if
the
dog ever needs abdominal surgery again, a mid line pexy would make the
subsequent surgery trickier.
BTW, in case folks are wondering, tacking the stomach will in *no way*
prevent mesenteric torsion.
PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam
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From: "MORGAN LEWIS" <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:50 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information
Might make that have/had autoimmune diseases; if everyone "tacks" their
animals how are you going to know, what might have happened??
Morgan Lewis, RPh.
Member GSDCA
President Last Hope of Georgia 501c3
"So Much to Do, So Little Time"
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From: Mike & Sheila Metz <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information
Time to add a column to the redbook, provided by the stud dog and dam
owners.
Please VOLUNTARILY provide how many progeny have succumbed to GI issues.
If the breeder chooses not to provide the info, well then I think you
have your answer
Again, this is just my opinion
M
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On 1/22/2012 1:31 PM, Penny & Bill wrote:
Totally agree--keeping track is is important; how is this done when some
causes of canine deaths are kept hush-hush?
Penny in NC The Farm Dog
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