horses, cows, people suffer from bloat and torsion. I know its hard to believe, but I have'nt heard a horse quack with the possible exception of the famous Mr. Ed of course of course I think its important to keep an open mind about health issues that have not yet had a root cause determination. One common factor beywern all species affected with this maladay, is processed, genetically alteted foodS Just saying M ** my personal mantra - constantly resist be ing put in a box - of any kind ** ----- Original Message ----- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: lfossland@xxxxxxx, shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx, Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx, ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:00:08 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sharing bloat/torsion information It depends on which procedure is used for the tacking. When the stomach is tacked to the soft lining of the abdominal wall IF a dog tries to torsion it can simply tear away. Unfortunately, when a dog who has torsioned is rushed to the ER, the main concern is getting the dog right ASAP, including but not limited to preventing shock, getting normal blood supply resumed, assessing damaged tissue and NOT doing one of the more extensive procedures, so yes Lee, a dog who has been tacked using that technique can indeed torsion again. To those that don't see a familial link....if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. You can make all of the excuses in the world (and I've heard most I think). I don't need a DNA marker for this one. Talk to Barb Williams. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 1/22/2012 5:33:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lfossland@xxxxxxx writes: The tacking alone does not keep torsioning from happening again - as I was told. Is that true? ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================