Tari and all..I laughed when I read the wording about "breeding quality", at the time I joined the GSDCA the first time in the mid 80's I certainly was not breeding quality..however joining the club helped open my eyes as to what quality was!!! Also I would like a stipulation that states that an applicant cannot sell to pets shops, or the like with ANY BREED..not just GSD's. After all one could have their GSD's living in luxury, but selling truck loads of other breeds to wholesalers. Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Tari Kridler <chsweetsun@xxxxxxx> > To: <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <ROBINHAUSGSD@xxxxxxx> > Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 9/20/2007 6:25:06 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Selling Dog Restrictions -Re: BCOEthics > > Hi, > I don't think the membership that didn't like the new Breeders Code of Ethics was planning on doing anything "Nasty" with our GSD pups.? It was Too Generalized and could NOT be enforceable with that type of wording.? One cannot say that you must do something, without outlining what the musts are.? > Trust me...we are NOT alone in this problem.? Our own Government goes thru this daily.? > Take for instance:? The new Ohio Law which is Presently in effect to being Oct. 1. lining out how a physician writes a Schedule 2 Narcotic drug.? These are the "Big-Guns" Narcotics, Morphine, Oxycodones, Percosets...and the like.? The new law says that every script contains: > One or more industry-recognized features designed to prevent unauthorized copying of a completed or blank prescription form; > One or more industry-recognized features designed to prevent the erasure or modification of information written on the prescription by the prescriber; > > One or more industry-recognized features designed to prevent the use of counterfeit prescription forms > However, There are NO guidelines listing the Industry-recognized Features to prevent erasure or modification as well as counterfeit prevention.? I?spoke directly to my connections at the Ohio Pharmacy?Board and they are just as frustrated.?? > > Wording isn't an easy thing.? I?just don't want to be told that if I breed a litter, and decided to use a?Stud dog that someone else feels is not a quality dog, they can't "turn me in" and my membership to the GSDCA will be in jeapordy....which is what the changes were insinuating.? Read carefully before you put Anything on the dotted line.? > > > Tari Kridler > Home of 2003 GVx Ch.Kridler's Ruby& 2xSel. Ch. Kridler's Quno & Kridler's K9-11 GSD Rescue@ http://www.kridlersgermanshepherds.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: ROBINHAUSGSD@xxxxxxx > Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 1:58 am > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: membership and ethics > > > > If one of the requirements of membership was that everyone had to sign > the Code of Ethics, that would still leave the Breeders' Code to be more or > less stringent...whatever people wanted. Any breed parent club should > have a requirement of every member that the member will not sell to > dealers or wholesalers, or provide dogs for raffles, auctions, etc. > The Breeders' Code should require that every dog sold be sold on a > contract in which the breeder agrees to take the dog back if at any time > in the life > of the dog, the owner cannot keep it...for any reason. Some contracts > (mine included) have aa clause in which the buyer agrees not to sell or > give the > dog away to anyone unless the seller (me) agrees...thereby giving the > seller first refusal, and a say in where that dog may end up. Of > course, previous > posts to this list have shown that there are people who don't want any > restrictions on the dogs they sell....but please don't ask me why. > Peggy > > ROBINHAUSGSD@xxxxxxx wrote: > > >I believe that to become a member of GSDCA a person should agree that they > >will not sell dogs to wholesalers who then sell to pet stores, or sell dogs at > > >flea markets, or donate dogs for auction. This should be a requirement of > >membership. This should not be left to just signers of the code of ethics. > > > >My own stud agreement requires this of puppies sold, including the > >requirement that any pups not sold to "legitimate" show homes go on limited > >registration. > > > >This is not unreasonable. > > > >jmho, > >Pat Robinson > >ROBINHAUS > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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