I really didn't want to get in on this, but the more I read, the more it gets under my skin. This should be the choice of the Judge as to how many dogs should be Select. If there is beautiful sufficient quality in the ring, on that day, and he/she sees 10 or 12 or whatever, even only 3, well we the MEMBERS have voted him/her in and this being a club of members should allow THAT Judge to simply do that ...Judge the dogs. Ruby is proof that a top quality animal can be found at Nationals level under SEVERAL different Judges. Her first time in the ring at age 7 mths she was 1st in 6-9 Canadian National. Second time in ring 1st 9-12 at US 2000 National. She then was 2nd Am. Bred 2001 Nationals, #2 Select 2002 Nationals, and GVX 2003 Can. & US. Yes, I feel any of the Selects on a different given day can be GV or GVX. Her Father, Aunt, & Cousins were Selects and GV's. Quality Begets Quality. WHY are we trying to fix something that ISN'T Broken? Tari Kridler ----- Original Message ----- From: BARBMARKH@xxxxxxx To: ELG440@xxxxxxx ; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: low select/high select In a message dated 4/28/2005 6:34:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: What Select was Xtra Xtra when he was Winner's Dog? Scoop was #9 select the year he went Winner's Dog, Flash his dad was #12 - The following year under Jack Newton he was #3 select, then he went GV in 2002 and 2003. Barb ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================