----- Original Message ----- From: Gsdman2@xxxxxxx I completely disagree with this statement. I don't know if it is the lister's words or the article she mentioned, but comparing a dog's angle to the length of a lever to discredit "extreme" angles, is just off base. *********************************************************************************** Please re-read my post. The angles are in reference to leverage, not balance. In re-reading my post I do see where the word "balance" is misused in context -- it was meant differently than what was implied. {{You must match the balance of the length to get the strongest leverage without being so long that the bar falls sideways in its instability.}} What is meant here is that you must strive to achieve the length of leverage that will produce the most power/leverage/thrust, without being so long that it veers sideways or loses stability. A scientific study of Anatomy and Physiology will prove to you that arms, legs, etc and their functions are indeed LEVERAGE....how humans or animals walk or move is based on scientific principles of leverage.......there's no "misinterpreting" that... Judy in MN (who can respectfully debate and agree to disagree *smile*) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================