[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Say what???

  • From: "Bob Grady" <bobgrady@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:38:49 -0800

point for me as I've never bought into that.
A good trainer can go to the local shelter and find a mix breed and train
it to do all the requirements.   Who is the authority to pick and choose
which
DQ does not matter??
We are not talking about not allowing a dog to compete and train for
titles....but for one the HIGHEST awards at a NATIONAL that represents our
Breed.  IMO.
I choose this Breed because of what the Standard requires it to be....it
pleases me.
MOST of what we 'look'  at does not have anything to do with the dogs
ability
to work.........NOR the owners ability to train.    For it to BE a GSD we
assume it has 
the ability to work.   That is what the Breed is!  IMO.   When we lose
that....we lose
the German  Shepherd Dog.
When some of it no longer matters........neither will the German Shepherd
Dog!


Unlike Evan, I really do not post here very often.

However, I have a very strong feeling on this subject.  IF A DOG HAS A DQ
FAULT according to OUR STANDARD they should not be allowed a major award.

That is not to say they can't compete at any show.  They just can not
receive a major award.  
That includes at any show.  National or local.  Give them their ribbons,
but, no points toward any AKC (unless it is one of their mixed breed awards)
or Parent Club award.

As I told someone I showed dogs for a few years ago, the only thing he could
see was movememt,  IF THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE A GSD, THEY ARE NOT A GSD.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Carolyn Martello
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:48 AM
To: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Say what???

Sorry.........it's just me I know.........but that's a wasted point for me
as I've never 
bought into that.
A good trainer can go to the local shelter and find a mix breed and train
it to do all the requirements.   Who is the authority to pick and choose
which
DQ does not matter??
We are not talking about not allowing a dog to compete and train for
titles....but
for one the HIGHEST awards at a NATIONAL that represents our Breed.  IMO.
I choose this Breed because of what the Standard requires it to be....it
pleases me.
MOST of what we 'look'  at does not have anything to do with the dogs
ability
to work.........NOR the owners ability to train.    For it to BE a GSD we
assume it has 
the ability to work.   That is what the Breed is!  IMO.   When we lose
that....we lose
the German  Shepherd Dog.
When some of it no longer matters........neither will the German Shepherd
Dog!


Carolyn    marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com



  On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:04:05 -0800, "Carolyn Martello"
  <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

  >By your comment Evan I assume it would not matter to you if >a dog that
bites 
  the judge,  has down ears, and a pink nose or >undershot jaw or cropped
tail could 
  also qualify for this high >prize if it  "did the work".......?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Karen M. Carloni To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday,
February 01, 2012 10:56 AM
  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: FB News/ say what???


  Definitely not the biting the judge!! But for the rest?
  Absolutely! If the dog is a properly registered AKC GSD (I
  would personally include ILP dogs as well, but...) and
  does the required work, it should be eligible for the club
  award. Haven't we created enough red-headed performance
  step-children in this club/breed? You mention docked
  tails. Well what about the dog who needed its tail
  amputated because of an accident or to save its life? What
  does the lack of a tail (or part thereof) have to do with
  a dog's ability to work?? Performance events are about the
  quality and preciseness of the work and the team effort
  between handler and dog, so I feel that is all that should
  be judged where awards are concerned. <shrugs>


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