Maybe, the show wins pages should be replaced by a Bragging Rights Page? Picture and pedigree for say a nominal fee? Not just conformation either. Perhaps 3 to a page and divide the page cost to each. Joan Joan F. Fox website: http://www.campaignersgsds.com 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 Cell: 440-759-4119 ________________________________ From: "LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx" <LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx> To: spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx; jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 1:13:35 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Saving the Review Not only do I get the Canine Chronical, Dog News, Showsights but I get all the magazine from the Specialty PC Clubs of the breeds I am approved to judge. I received two large Dobe magazine from two different publishers. I don't pay for any of these magazines. Lee Brown Too far from the womb and too close to the tomb to care about what anyone thinks of me. In a message dated 3/15/2011 12:04:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: LMAO.... Corruption? Almost all breed clubs I know send magazines to judges (ask the judges on this list that have multiple breeds) - and certainly they get all the regular magazines such as Canine Chronical and Dog News. I remember a handler friend once telling us that "you don't advertise for the good judges, you advertise for the OTHER judges").. And I believe that... But that is part of the "show" thing. I also believe that advertising issue is more influencial (if at all) at Best of Breed level and not so much in the classes. Besides, so many GSD people only show to breeder-judges and they get the Review don't they? Something we have started doing is when the Spotter is in the mail and posted on the website is we send out a postcard to all the judges to remind them that the new issue is online. This way, we aren't spending a huge amount of money to send out a magazine that probably only half the judges MIGHT look at, yet we are still promoting the club and the advertisers dogs to the judges... We do have a few judges that have requested the hardcopy magazine so we send that out to them, but most all-breed judges just look at it online and love receiving just a postcard.. > This idea of sending magazines to judges reeks of potential corruption > to me. I want knowledgable judges to evaluate dogs according to the > standard. What does seeing an ad have to do with picking the best > dog? But then again I am an idealist. Jim Barnhart Jessica MacMillan No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC) Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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