[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Same National problems..
- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Ruth Scheubler" <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>, <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "freelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:01:04 -0800
I'm merely addressing the question as to why the Canadian National is
successful
in one location year after year from my perspective of getting there with a big
dog
in a # 500 crate from the West Coast.
Our experience attending the Canadian National in Eastern Canada was that it
was as easy for us to fly from the West Coast with a # 500 crate then, as it
will be
for us to get to Beaumont, Texas now.....possibly easier.
Hopefully we don't ever have to go to just ONE location here in the
U.S......but we
need to be open to the possibility of two or three permanent sites that can be
driven
to by at least half to 2/3 of the Country and a major hub airport for the other
half or 1/3
each year. Times and airlines have changed.
Our Clubs used to be a lot larger for workers, and we didn't have the huge
venues
of Herding, Rally, etc. But mainly the airlines are making that decision for
us as it
continues to narrow the field more and more......they ALL 'bump' dogs
randomly now
if a customer comes on and needs the Cargo space for their excess
baggage....they
have weather restrictions, size restrictions, smaller aircraft for connecting
flights, and
some airlines we used to rely on no longer take dogs or have huge price
increases.
This is not a "UTAH PROBLEM".......it is an AIRLINE problem!!
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Carolyn ; Ruth Scheubler ;
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; freelist
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:48 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Same Bat
time, Same Bat channel...long
Then perhaps we should find a permanent site that can accommodate all our
events in the Detroit area????? Just a thought. Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> From: Carolyn <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Ruth Scheubler
> Easy to fly into Detroit direct from California and drive into Kitchner.
> LOTS of the major Exhibitors in the East are close to the Canadian border.
> Direct flights into Toronto.
>
> Can't get a dog from Northern Calif. to Southern California though! <G>>
>
> Ed is right. It's an "airline issue".........not a "lack of willingness
issue".........
>
> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.Marhaven.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: Ruth Scheubler ;
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; freelist
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:29 PM
> >
> I have a question, I suppose because I am confused, or just slow on the
> uptake. How is it that exhibitors, from all over the US manage to make
> their pilgrimage to Canada every year to the National, which is held in
the
> same location.The Can. National is comprised of a great number of US
> exhibitors, so basically the same US exhibitors attend both Nationals.
So,
> why are US exhibitors willing to accept that the Can. National is held
in
> the same location every year, but won't accept this as a possibility for
> our US National? Every year I hear people say that if you haven't
attended
> the Can. National you should because it is great fun.Oddly I never, ever
> hear anyone gripe about getting to the location,or going to the same
> location, no matter where they are coming from, whether it be San
Diego,CA,
> Bangor, Maine, or Miami,FL they all seem to make it to Kitchner. To
date, I
> have never heard a US exhibitor state that they would never attend a
Can.
> National again, unless they began rotating it around their country. So
to
> sum it all up I suppose I am asking how can the very same group of US
> exhibitors showing at the Can. National be content with the same
location
> every year, be discontent and disenfranchised unless the US National is
> rotated around the country every year?Keep in mind that I am a bit
slow, so
> someone explain this to me like I was a 6 year old. Christine
>
> hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Seems like the difficulty with air travel is actually an argument for
> rotating the location so everyone has the chance to get there. You might
> miss out on one National, but at least there will be one withing
reasonable> driving distance within you lifetime, regardless of where you
live. Is
it> fair to make the folks on either coast, especially the upper and lower
> corners of the coasts, to travel upwards of 1500 miles EVERY year? It
> may be more convenient for those living near the chosen location
members,> but it deliberately disenfranchises many members. It is a matter
of
> fairness. Not only is air travel going to be more and more difficult,
but
> consider always having to drive long distances at $4.00/gal, plus the
> travel time. We know gas will not get cheaper.> > Ruth
> > Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ....When I was in the Fourth
> grade the Bat Man TV show was a favorite of mine...at the end of the
show> the announcer would say..." tune in next time at the same Bat time and
the> same Bat channel"......I am breaking one of my three list rules, the
one
> about not discussing National locations in public....I have been trying
> three weeks to ship a dog to a location in the Midwest....either there
are> no planes that will take a 500 crate, or the weather is bad or the
> connections times are horrible etc etc....then today I few to Utah to
pick> up three puppies...well when I showed up at the airport Delta informed
me> that the price of flying WITH your pet as excess baggage went up....WAY
> UP...it used to cost 75 bucks, now its 150 bucks...one way per
dog!...now> when I booked the fare last Dec. the lady told me it was
$75....I also
> heard that Delta was about to merge with Northwestern, so it's my guess
> that they too will charge the same> > outrageous fare...well I lost my
temper
in Utah at> > the airport on a different shipping issue, I think I sort of
upset (
> embarrassed) lister Connie Malo with my outburst...but enough is
> enough....when I ran for the board a few years ago I was very outspoken
> about our National being at the Same place at the same time EVERY YEAR (
> hello Canada)...thanks again for defeating me, however I still maintain
> that one day when no one can fly to the 2045 National in "Funtime
> Virginia".. because of some of the problems I mentioned above...I won't
be> here to say I told you so, oh yeah when I got to Utah this morning
Connie> told me she was all set to ship a puppy to Columbus when the airport
called> and told her that the dog was being bumped because they would not be
able> to accommodate the puppy...the writing is on the wall folks, whether
you
> want to read it or not...I am still no mail for another 4 weeks until my
> spring break.....letting off steam in beautiful Brentwood Calif.......I
> should never travel without my meds.....lol....FB
>
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