In a message dated 2/10/2008 9:43:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: You can't compare the Canadian nationals to the GSDCA. We are a spread membership with a very diverse membership. Few Canadians make it to the US National either. Evan is very right. There is no comparison between the nationals other than GSD's are shown. There is only obedience and rally along with conformation in Canada. Also a temperament test. There is no requirement for acres of land, herding facilities and so on. And I am only guessing at this time......but the last I posted on this issue over 2 years ago, approximately 80 plus% of the membership resided in Ontario where the nationals are held. A few times the show has gone west or east but it appears to work best for everyone to be held where it is held. The GSDCA has a very active membership spread over every state. As pointed out, many of these people cannot travel so it is great if the national comes close enough they can make it every 4-6 years. If you cater only to those who consistently enter then you in turn make it "their" show. Yes it is about entries, it is a dog show. But how on earth do you keep the people involved if it not sometimes about them? I don't believe we have ever lost money in recent years on the national entry/location, and it is not about making money....as long as we don't lose. The heaviest member states are California, Florida, New York, Pennsylvania and Texas. To not a least make an effort to come close to where a strong membership lives from time to time would be to exclude them. The Canadian National is where the strong membership is.........and the entries just come, from where ever. I Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 ph 409-287-3940 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic" **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================