If Carmen could get AKC to approve ScH trials, I'd bet he could get the AKC Board to go for passing a prequisite Temperament Test for Specials. After all Temperament is what the Seiger Show, SV Courage Test is all a about, which all dogs and bitches must pass in order to compete in Open for any kind of SG and better ratting. Dick Whalen Jericho German Shepherds Remember, a Balance Dog has Letter before and after their name. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In a message dated 7/13/2006 5:08:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I am afraid the AKC would not allow us (GSDCA) to put such a stipulation as part of an entry. D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx To: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx ; cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] STANDARD-Saved best for last!!!!! In a message dated 7/12/2006 10:11:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Rbuffdogs writes: I would vote for a full on TC mandatory for all Specials to be given by our top evaluator, the day before the show. Separate for sake of taking ring time. But must pass, before going into Specials. Or heck, while I am daydreaming about "things that will never happen" a full- on TC in front of the crowd.....for the last group of Specials...you don't pass, you get the gait and NO Select. I would pay CASH to see such a challenge put forth for the "best" in our breed. Kathy Well Kathy, Why don't you prepare this motion, and send it to the board for consideration? I will be happy to give you the first signature. <G> How soon can we get it initiated..............this year? Now we are all going to start having dreams........LOL Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================