Wow Carolyn, no one suggested that any large regional show or national be limited to only those dogs, at least no one that I know of. As far as Pacific Coast Victor, it was a nice award, but like a LOT of big clubs all over the country , it does not pull the numbers right now. Didn't one of the big Triangle clubs just fold? This is not about making it about multiple nationals , although economy and club policies may make it happen... it is about getting people to realize that the Nationals has to be equitable and accessible for everyone, at least every few years.. Also in any region where a National is held, one will see most of the same dogs against which you competed the prior year, in that host region... so not sure what the difference is there. When it is held in the east, the Eastern exhibitors will obviously see and be competing against people they have pretty much seen all year...etc etc. By your reasoning then..the Western US should never hold a national at all, because Heaven forbid we should see most of the same people?? How about we ROTATE the thing like the membership clearly wanted..and those that don't want to see/compete against the "same dogs" can have the autonomy to go anywhere else in the country to a national. The rest of us will go to a close one because it is doable...regardless whether we see the "same ole people and dogs" there or not... Kathy. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================