On 7 Dec 2011, at 16:32, Sara Minsk wrote: I merely said she had very nice dogs but the one dog I saw with advanced performance titles did not have a AKC Championship. So, my point was that I hardly ever see CH dogs with upper performance titles like some of the German dogs. <reply> The amount of time and training and committment often do not permit people to title HIGH on both ends if they work, have multiple dogs etc. I cannot train my dogs in performance to the levels I want while they are busy being show in conformation. Often, one must decide if they want to do one or the other. By the time your dog is a Select excelent CH ready for its AOE, it is older. Training for advanced performance titles is often NOT feasible By the time I have a UDX on the dog, it is too old for Conformation Training classes are expensive. We all make choices based upon our time, finances and whether or not we want to put the dog into t he whelping box. WHen I train for performance, I am working that dog 5 days a week - at different classes, different venues. Then of course, we still have to work at jobs, care for children and elderly parents, and maybe, enjoy a day off When I train for conformation, I attend those training classes, drive to shows or drive to my handlers to have them take the dog to shows, then pick them up etc etc. The dog has proved its trainability by getting a CD, RN etc. Advanced titles just mean the owner had the skill and time to take that dog further. Most of us have MANY dogs ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================