Tish and others, I was filing a bunch of dog stuff yesterday and found some notes I had made at the 2007 National on a handout we got from Dr. Mathew Pletcher/Laura Schultz at the Scripps Research Institute in Jupiter, FL. See contact info below. Their project is called The Canine Genomics Initiative. My notes say that they agreed to look for a bloat/torsion gene in their research. What they want from us is DNA samples. I don't know if they are still willing to do this. Is anyone working with them? Is the PC supporting that? While reading the recent list posts, I did a quick search of the veterinary literature. The 2003 conclusions of Dr. Jerold Bell regarding a hypothesized genetic component of bloat is that, like dysplasia, it is a polygenic trait. Among many other things he writes that are worth reading, he says that managing a polygenic trait requires a knowledge of breadth of pedigree regarding the trait as well as depth. He says, in fact, that breadth is more important. In other words we need to know if the siblings of an ancestor were affected by bloat. This is a more important genetic indicator than the direct ancestor. Naturally, that kind of information is much harder to come by. Dr. Larry Glickman at Purdue studied 1,914 dogs with regard to bloat/torsion in 1994. The dogs had no prior history of bloat. Eleven large and giant breeds were represented. This is the kind of study that appeals to me as an academic, although I wish it were more recent. Risk factors identified in this study included: (1) (greatest) chests that are deep and narrow (2) lean dogs (3) old dogs (4) fearful, nervous, or aggressive dogs (5) feeding dry food containing fat among the first 4 ingredients (6) feeding dry food once a day, (5) stress as an immediate precipitating factor (e.g. travel, kenneling, etc.). No correlation was found between bloat/torsion and the following: (1) exercise before or after eating (2) vaccinations (3) dog food brands (4) timing or volume of water taken before or after eating. Following his 2003 review of the literature, Dr. Bell concludes: "...we can list several factors that, added together, can characterize the typical dog that develops bloat: a deep and narrow chest; leanness; a relative that has had a bloat episode, eating quickly; a dry-food diet; a single, large daily meal; stress, and a fearful, nervous, or aggressive temperament." Researchers look for consistent patterns that predict an outcome greater than chance. These patterns are not presented as hard-and-fast rules, and researchers acknowledge that there are exceptions that fall outside of the patterns. I hope that this mini-report is useful/interesting to those of you who would rather not read the studies!!! I am looking for more recent scholarly stuff (e.g. not from retired vets promoting their supplements). Please share! Here is the contact info for Dr. Pletcher: Canine Genomics Initiative Dr. Mathew Pletcher The Scripps Research Institute 5353 Parkside Dr. Jupiter, FL 33458 mpletcher@xxxxxxxxxxx www.pletcherlab.org Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com ________________________________ From: "TISHW@xxxxxxx" <TISHW@xxxxxxx> To: fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:52:26 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut (long) In a message dated 1/18/2009 11:25:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: wish that GSDCA would fund a study through the AKC Health Fund to find out more about this horrible disease. I never want to lose another animal to it and I think breeders need to be very honest if this is occurring in their lines to help save these beautiful animals. 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