How does anyone get experience with a gsd if the list is this long? Denise W http://sabianshepherds.tripod.com for show and performance ----- Original Message ---- From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: Stormy435@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 3:04:02 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [CHGSD-L] I own dogs who live in a k... What are the alternatives, no fence, a dog chained up and/or a puppy stuck in a crate for over eight hours while everyone is at work, then another 6-7 hours for bed time? That's swell that some people can make due in less than ideal conditions, but since I don't have many litters and can be very selective about who goes where, I choose the BEST possible situations. I DO want a fenced play area and I don't want both mom and dad working (same hour) full time jobs. I'm not selling a puppy to renters either. (Sorry, don't bother e-mailing telling me how well it worked for you, that's an exception and not the rule. Too many landlords don't allow pets for me to feel good about it. Shelters are full of dogs where someone has lost a lease.) ABSOLUTELY I want the puppy to go to a home where its a housedog. Does that even need an explanation? THESE DOGS DESERVE MORE THAN BEING WHAREHOUSED IN PENS LIKE CATTLE. And bonus points for those who commit to puppy-k and obedience. When someone takes time to train/socialize their dog, they move up the puppy waiting list. What I DON'T want is the puppy back in a few months after the new owners who don't have a fenced area realize what a chore it is to walk a dog in the rain/snow 4x+ a day or want to bring it back because the neighbors complain when a tied up dog makes a racket. I want the first placement to stick. I'm fussy about age too. I love Terry's idea about staying on as a co-owner when buyers get above a certain age. As far as homes w/ newborns, and very young toddlers, no. I know it "can" work w/ "dog people", but remember, I want the best homes, and it's a lot on a young mom to care for very young children and a puppy and if anything suffers for attention, it'll be the puppy. I'm fussy about how many dogs and the temperament of those dogs that a prospective home may have too. If they have a nut job, they are not getting one of my puppies. (Monkey see, monkey do and the puppy will grow up w/ the same issues.) (I have placed a puppy in a townhouse, but it was a short therm thing; the couple was waiting for their new house to be built.) The ideal home for me would be someone who has had experience w/ GSDs or other large dogs, children over 5-6, a fenced play area, a stay at home or part time or different shift employed parent, w/ maybe one or two other pets who was interested in doing something with their new puppy. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 7/1/2008 1:36:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes: How many of us, after becoming enculturated in the breed a while, will only sell pups to people with fenced yards. I have even seen posts that maintain that there should be somebody home with the pup during the day, and the dog should be a "house dog". Since my first two GSDs came to a Townhouse, and walking them 1/2 a block away to potty was the only recourse I (and they) had; I didn't have an objection to pups to apartments with my litters, etc., But after I came on this list that long ago, I saw so many posts that were adamant that fences and lots of house time were the criteria for sales. Stormy **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. 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