I'm stepping in here as well since I still have friends in Penna. who are AVID hunters. Indeed, one gentleman has an English Setter and he was quite upset with the mess in Colorado with that Setter breeder. He's also a known businessman with advertising and other interests. I'm not sure if he belongs to the Sporting Dog (whatever that is) but I've informed him of this new activity that may be in the works in his state. He is helping all he can to be sure things are on the up and up as much as possible. What interests me so much lately also is I"m in La. and it's just been a couple of years that dog fighting has been made illegal. In our session at this time there is a bill being brought up to actually arrest and punish people who "attend" dog fights. They are wanting this, just the being there, to be a federal offense. Getting a bit serious here in what has been called "Sportsman's Paradise" for years. We'll be watching this stuff, as usual. Sorry, got a bit carried away but it's building up. JMHO Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: Re: New Pennsylvania Dog Legislation Will Be Fought In The Tr... John Yates has done some deep analysis of other cities in other states (Santa Barbara, for example), and it was very good. I don't think any comments on legislation that is coming up is "pot stirring" if it brings attention to it. If Yates is wrong, if he is muddled, then clarification of his points would be welcome. Just a simple "slamming" does not bring clarity, Kathy, and for those not familiar with the inner workings of a state/city, even reading the bill doesn not address the total situation. There are many intelligent, caring people who don't see the pitfalls behind bills. I have been in that situation, myself, actually. And was appreciative of those who brought the small print to my attention. JMO, as always Stormy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================