A dog the size of a GSD should have no need to have their anal glands expressed as a routine procedure. They are (in general) able to do this on their own with just the normal straining of a bowel movement. We deal with lots of little dogs in the business, that's a whole different story. And you will be surprised to know how many owners have no idea how to express their dogs anal glands, or how to recognize if that's the problem. We had a couple of GSD fosters that had PF, and (again, in general) they were just not healthy. That's when we first became aware of this illness, and, indeed, antibiotics alone will not solve this problem. There were diet changes, constant rinsing and cleaning, researching what meds work and what made things worse....a real nightmare. First obstacle is to get the right diagnosis. * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, aka DEXTER Kaleef's Expensive Date (major pointed) aka JACKIE and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and Doc Holliday In a message dated 11/26/2011 7:58:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx writes: That is true there is a hugh difference. PF can not be cured through antibiotics or surgery. Cyclosporine is the major treatment along with change in diet, but the problem can only be put in remission, sometimes weeks, sometimes months, some even years. It is thought to be genetic, and there is even a genetic test for it. Usually triggered by stress or vaccinosis. There is an excellent GSD PF GROUP on the internet Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA President Last Hope of Georgia 501c3 "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================