In a message dated 7/16/2006 6:06:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marhaven@xxxxxxx writes: Developing a show dog into being friendly with strangers while their mouth and testicles are checked is not "honeying up" in my opinion, nor is it "oooey gooey" Carolyn , I was not referring testicle checks or bite exam, and no accepting of the exams doesn't mean friendly either...it means compliant. What I was actually referring to was dog that are overtly "golden retriever--ish " not correct temperament for a GSD...but certainly better than a coward. Kathy Victory....There's Something in a Name WEBSITE UPDATED: June 18, 2006 _Victory German Shepherds_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/index.htm) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================