Patty -- For as long as I can remember that is the way the premium lists for our three clubs have always been worded. In fact, if you look at the entry form for the National Specialty you will also see that there is no entry fee required for Jr. Showmanship provided the dog is entered in another class. Until this thread started, nobody has ever complained. I checked an all-breed premium list and found that they charge the regular entry fee for Jr. Showmanship; if the dog is entered in a regular class, they allow Jr. Showmanship as an additional entry with a big $2 discount. Valerie Harrington whereis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: whereis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;Blackoaksgs@xxxxxxx;showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 1/10/2005 7:39:19 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rule changes In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:59:28 PM Central Standard Time, whereis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: While we do not charge an entry fee for Junior Showmanship, we do require that the dog/bitch be entered in the regular classes. Of course, the dog actually shown in the Junior class may be a substitution for the one entered in the Regular classes. Thank you for clearing this up...I thought it was not a AKC rule...so."we do require" means it was the Triangle clubs that decided this. Thanks, Patty ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================