My thanks to Evan for what he said about Robert yesterday. For people who really knew Robert back then, you would know that he was very much saddened by the insults and jealousy that ruined his career in dogs. I am sorry for people who believe that he bred a different dog intentionally. I believe that he was the victim of a vindictive kennel worker who set out to ruin him and who made his life miserable with administrative investigations until he finally left the Sate of Washington. I know people have their stories to tell, but mine is one of respect Bob liked people, but was extremely sensitive to criticism, and his reaction to the claims of the AKC was withdrawal rather than an agressive defense. I wish he had taken Evan's offerto represent him, but he didn't. Robert got us started in dogs in 1980right after our first shepherd died. I bought my next two shepherds fromhis wife Judy when she was about 8 months pregnant with his son. His personal life went up and down, but Ed and I were pleased with Robert's efforts on our behalf and we co-owned our first champion, a GV Senator littersister with him. He bought and finished our foundation bitch, Ch. CovyTucker Fresca Nordlicht, and with her breeding to Andretti, Avion Kennelswas born. I cannot thank him enough for his patience with newbies like us at a time when we knew no one. That has changed in 26 years, but I can say that the worst he ever did to us was not sell us Sunday Silence when we said "yes" to her (the day after Dick and Jean Whalen bought her!). He was honest and straight forward to us and earned his fees and our respect. The Andretti fiasco was an awful end to a wonderful career for him, but he isstill a genius at animal husbandry, as evidenced by his continued success with breeding cattle. I am glad that he could continue to enjoy dogs throughDonna Sater, and that the two of them could share the farm life he loves. I hope he enjoys every minute he has with her. He did great things for our breed with Andretti and those of us who bred to Andretti and have enjoyed the successes of his progeny, and can look to continued success with pedigrees that go back to Andretti have Bob to thank, His ouster from the AKC was their loss, JMO. Claire Drosdick, Avion Kennels ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================