[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Responses for Puppies & Protein
- From: Susan Madlung <stormygsd@xxxxxxx>
- To: uwish@xxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 07:34:43 -0700
yep, everyone has their own recipe for success... decide what you want to
accomplish and go from there..
e.g. fast growth in large breeds can promote bone and joint problems.. that
is the primary reason why most don't feed puppy food after 8 weeks - not the
amount of protein. Adult foods typically don't have those high protein, fat
%. The natural foods even lower -heavy puppies at 6 months , especially
males have seen problems..many many vets (relations, friends and my vets
over the years) have told me the advent of puppy food came out of the 60s
when quality dog foods were at a premium (actually, if you might remember
back then it was dog chow and that was about it to feed any dogs) and vets
were seeing puppies being fed scraps, poor quality food etc resulting in
poor growth without proper support to growing bones and tissues - the puppy
food was not as "high powered" as it is today, and was a huge improvement
over what was available back then.. thus, the jingle was born
"Puppy Chow for a fulllllll year, till he's full grown"
Calcium phosphorus ratio is IMPORTANT - this imbalance can cause connective
tissue, joint and bone problems - someone will correct me, I believe the
ratio is about 2:1
If you feed a QUALITY food (which I am sure you do) you really shouldn't
need any supplementation - as long as biologically the puppy is absorbing
nutrients at the right rates. Knowing your lines is the best, but basically
monitoring you puppies growth is the most important - it's fast, heavy
growth that can cause the problems..
Just my thoughts and what I have learned and experienced..
Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Galasso" <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:16 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Responses for Puppies & Protein
> Good morning all. Wow, when I ask a question, you guys are great
> getting back to me with some very interesting replies. I've been asked
> by many to share the answers to this question: Pups and Protein -
> should I feed a high protein puppy food, supplement with vitamins, add
> meats, etc? Because the majority of people write to me privately,
> here's the answers I've received. Everyone has their own way of doing
> things and everyone says their way works for them.
>
> DON'T USE PUPPY FOOD:
> Don't use it, and don't add any vitamins.
> No puppy food, but uses Puppy Gold (milk replacer - vitamins & minerals)
> until 4 months.
> Never puppy food - too high in protein.
> No puppy food because their a large breed dog and they don't want to add
> all that extra protein to their diets.
> Don't use large breed puppy food at all.
>
> USES PUPPY FOOD:
> Uses high protein, plus Puppy Gold (see above).
> Uses puppy food and meat.
> Uses puppy food because of balanced nutrients and vitamins.
> Uses puppy food to 4 mos and then to the adult food - no supplements.
> Uses puppy food - that's all.
> Uses puppy food and some meat.
> Starts them on puppy food then adult food between 3-4 months.
>
> ADULT FOOD:
> Adult food, meat, yogurt - no supplements.
> Use adult food - no extra supplements.
> Adult food and raw.
> Adult food, meat, yogurt, and sometimes cottage cheese.
>
> OTHER:
> Only raw - no kibble, but uses goats milk.
> Two people use Esbilac Stage 2 and kibble.
> Pet tabs.
> A few people added vitamin C because of down pasterns.
> One breeder uses Ester vitamin C and vitamin E.
> Don't uses a food that has more than 25% protein, then at 12 weeks give
> them a food with no more than 22% protein.
> Don't add lots of meat - throws off the calcium/phosphorus content - may
> get pano.
> Don't add supplements because of the calcium/phosphours content.
> Baby rice cereal, evaporated milk, chop meat, Puppy Gold.
>
> So there you have it. I hope this has helped some, and maybe has
> confused others, but everyone swears by the method that they are using,
> so I guess it would be safe to say that anyone of the above ways works.
> Your choice. Best wishes, Barbara
>
>
>
> --
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> CHIEFTAINS GERMAN SHEPHERDS
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>
>
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