1. The following is a list of all breed judges whose original breed was the GSD. Some of these people have bred ROM & BIS animals and some are even members of the parent club and have GSD's still. I'm sure there are lots more. Sonny Ambrosio Chris Walkowicz Carol White-Moser Henry Gregory Laurie Telfair Dr. Rev. Patrick Ormos Sherry Wallis Sue Godek Judy Bendt Sharon Dwyer 2. That breeder you're referring in to in your second point has acquired a dog sired by the current grand victor. We may see a change in type in this persons dogs soon. TX all breed people keep a mental list of judges that seem to prefer this breeder's type of GSD. And we try not to show to those judges. 8. If you have to show a dog 200 times to finish it, it probably isn't a good dog no matter what venue you're showing in. Bottom line do some research on what type of dog the judge likes before entering under them no matter what ring it is. Diane BISS Ch. Echo-Cham's River Phoenix OFA H&E AKA "River" Ch. Da-Jo's Crestview Ironman AKA "Tony" Candia's Hard Rock Candy v Tejas AKA "Rocky" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================