[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Response from Lane/Superiorgsd
- From: "Sally" <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'Peggy'" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:54:39 -0600
Now we have him out of the club (supposedly ) it becomes a legal matter. I
for one can not afford to hire an attorney for this.
Sally
www.embroiderybysally.com (new)
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From: Peggy [mailto:pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:49 AM
To: Sally
Cc: pagairs@xxxxxxx; Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Response from Lane/Superiorgsd
The pictures taken from the GSD Reviewed are part of the PC website...and
everything there IS copyrighted...and not in the public domain. Someone did
point that out yesterday...so they have no right to use the pictures, no
matter what this jerk says.
Peggy
Sally wrote:
Jame did a great job unfortunately the pictures will remain and I have not
found a group of them all link together raise large dogs and use the exact
same pitures and set up as he does-I am about to research to see if any of
them are PC members . I may not get the pictures down but we don't need
these people in the club while they run down our dogs
Sally
www.embroiderybysally.com (new)
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From: pagairs@xxxxxxx [mailto:pagairs@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:22 AM
To: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; sally@xxxxxxxxxxx;
pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx; campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Response from Lane/Superiorgsd
Excellent response...................... thank you for a positive approach
and resolution.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; sally@xxxxxxxxxxx; pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx;
campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 8:57 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Response from Lane/Superiorgsd
FYI......this is the answer I received from Mr. Lane in response to my
letter
to him. The bottom line is that he will cancel his membership in GSDCA and
remove the BC from his website. Yay.
Jamie
> >
> >Dear Mr. Lane,
> > Your website has come to the attention of many of the members of the
> >German Shepherd Dog Club of America due to your negative and false
> > advertising.
>
> Answer: Please state, with specificity, each and every instance of what
you
> consider
> to be false advertising upon my web site; and clearly outline WHY it meets
> the legal definition of "False Advertising."
>
> >We are shocked that as a professed good member of our club
> >and a signer of the Breeders Code of Ethics, you would stoop so low as to
> >infer that many of our winning GSD's are substandard and presume to
> >"educate" the public on a subject which you obviously have little
> >knowledge.
> Answer: The winning GSDs are, indeed, in accordance with the standards of
> the GSDCA.
> They appear to be, however, beneath my standards for any or all of:
stature,
>
> intelligence and disposition.
>
> > For one thing, many of the dogs that you have chosen to picture
> >(without permission) on your website in the various time zones are
> >incorrect.
> Answer: How are they "incorrect", and I need no permission to use public
> domain images
> in the presentation of a document which is both instructional and
> constitutes "fair comment" under the law.
>
> >For another, you have advertised that all of your dogs are OFA
> >certified, which after an OFA search, we find that to be untrue.
>
> Answer: All dogs are OFA certified upon their second year of life, or they
> are not
> bred. Period.
>
> >You also violate the Breeders Code when you pursue the breeding of
"larger"
>
> dogs than the Standard calls for.
> Answer: I do not breed to the GSDCA show standards. If you had bothered
to
> read my
> website, you would have known this.
>
> >And speaking of the Breeders Code, you have not published the code in its
> entirety, but seemingly only those parts which fit your agenda.
> Answer: I have notified my website maintainer, and the GSDCA Breeders Code
> excerpts
> have been removed. Thank you for reminding me of something I had intended
> to
> have taken care of this past summer, but forgot to mention it to him. It
> has
> been quite the bustling year for business.
>
> >It is beyond my understanding that with such disdain for the dogs bred
> >in this county and in Germany and the inference that only your dogs meet
> >the criteria to be good GSD's, that you would still wish to be counted as
a
> >member of our club.
>
> Answer: Now that you mention it, I have been meaning to cancel my
membership
> with the
> GSDCA; as I have found that I prefer a higher calling in preserving the
> classic/original lines of the GSD breed, instead of pimping a dog to a
> judge.
>
> >Could it be that using these endorsements, since you have no achievements
> of
> >your own, assist you in selling and marketing your pets?
> Answer: I will have to check with my website maintainer about the matter;
> however, I
> did instruct him to remove any and all material on the website which would
> have the effect of communicating any affiliation between myself and the
> GSDCA.
>
> As to my achievements, since they are not born of cronyism and
genuflecting
> to
> a show ring judge; my manifold achievements are probably beyond your
> understanding.
>
> >Mr. Lane, I certainly understand that you are entitled to your
> >opinions and have every right to express those opinions in whatever
method
> >you choose;
> Answer: Good. We have a point of agreement. I shall continue to do so,
> with or
> without the approval of anyone within the show-ring circuit.
>
> >however, I would suggest that you endeavor to educate yourself
> >more fully by attending dog shows, obedience trials, joining a local club
> >and participating in the various learning activities that are available.
> Answer: It is my independent education which has enabled me to become an
> ethical and
> reputable breeder of dogs which are not destined for the ring.
>
> >By doing so, you may find that your "opinions" will develop into fuller
> >knowledge and appreciation of our Breed and for those who have met with
> >much more success than merely selling puppies from their back yard.
> Answer: It may be a fair summary of your position to say that, you believe
> that I will
> then be possessed of the same prejudices and elitism that are
characteristic
>
> of many kennel breeders. I will think the same way you do, and you will
> feel
> less threatened by that.
>
> >For your future information, the Breeders Code of Ethics is now in the
> >process of revision and all signers will have to sign the new code in
order
> >to use this endorsement or to be listed on the Parent Club website.
>
> Answer: This is, as far as I am aware, a state of affairs that has always
> existed.
>
> It is interesting to note that, like the GSDCA show standards, everything
is
>
> subject to change, revision; capricious modification to suit a momentary
> whim, or over-inflated egos.
>
> >There will be a provision in the new Code that will state that no ethical
> >breeder will disparage or malign another's dogs or breeding practices.
>
> Answer: Since I have never disparaged or maligned any other breeder's dogs
> or breeding
> practices, this is of no affect to me.
>
> How then, do you propose to self-police your ranks, if nobody has the
> freedom
> to report on unethical breeders and "dog mill" conditions within the GSDCA
> membership ranks?
>
> I predict an increase in unhealthy conditions and inhumane treatment of
GSDs
>
> as a result of your over-vealous attempt to expel independent thinking,
> ethical, breeders from your ranks.
>
> >Will you be able to sign the new Code?
> Answer: Of course I will.
>
> The essential question is this:
> Do I wish to continue to be identified as affiliated with a group such as
> the
> GSDCA?
>
> Since the answer to that is an unabashed, "No," you need not expect me as
a
> signatory to the modified rules of compliance and correct methods and
> procedures for massaging inflated egos.
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