I am not so bold as to say this happens at every show, but enough to cause people to make their "lists" of judges that will look at their dogs and appreciate them.. if what I am saying is unfounded, I would love to hear it.. but I hope, then, everyone throws out their lists of judges and enters shows because they know the judging will be according to the standard.. just my opinion folks! Sue Madlung - Sue.......we can always hope I recently judged a show and there was a dog who had, in my eyes, a very faulty rear. I placed him last on his class. BUT......this dog had a cheering section of 5 people, 2 of which are AKC judges, one who has judged futurities, these people were hell bent on this dog winning. He didn't. He just was not the best dog. Period. Now I hear those "knowledgeable" judges are hell bent on telling everyone I did a terrible job. They never asked me anything, as a matter of fact, they don't talk to me anymore <G> How petty. My response? Take a look at the dog. I can only imagine the scene an oral critique would've created that day....<G>. This dog went on to finish, as do many other. So, congratulations to them, I still feel I did the right thing. Wouldn't change a thing I did that day. The WD went BOB, and represented the breed beautifully in the Group Ring. I would have taken him home. Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================