Well we have recently had problems with people calling about joining our club and they are not doing anything with their dogs like training, showing or vlountering. After spending a lot of time with her on the phone she told me that some one gave them three bitches and they want to breed guard dogs. She sounded very young and I hate to say, clueless. She finally said that she and her husband think if they join the club it would be profitable to them to sell puppies. She went on to say that they have tried to breed the bitches but so far no pups...she said they may be to young. They are all under 1 year. Then she wanted to train in protection. My personal feeling is that we GSD members owe it to our breed to help educate these folks but on the other hand we don't want to become the breed wardens. I was able to find out that she got these free bitches from a woman in Iowa...I think that is the pet mill person. I really impressed on her what our club mission is and that we do not promote breeding for pets. I asked her if she had a copy of the breed standard. I informed her that the market is so bad now. But we have another person in the area that breeds for pets and brags because big name show people allow her to breed her bitches to their studs to get them proven. Our board of directors are looking at how to include people in the club as members but to ensure that they are credible and willing to embrace the club mission and objectives. We hosted the Midwest Fututity this year and had some members not work at all or support the endeavors. To me that is just unacceptable if you want to be a member in an AKC Specialty GSD club. I really think the clubs need to attrack new members but also support the GSD standard, Breeders Code of Ethics, and support continuing education programs that allow the new and us old people to continue to learn about our great breed. To not combine these functions in clubs is to ignore potential danger to the Breed! Terra Fairburn & Nanc Kinley Keggi Fair Kennels Terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.keggifair.com "The noblest pleasure is the joy of understanding" Leonardo da Vinci ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Lukos" <targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Regional Membership > Kathy > > I believe most people in regional clubs know the puppy millers in their > area > and would not allow them in the club. > > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> > To: <targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:30 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Regional Membership > > >> >> >> In a message dated 6/21/2007 11:38:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> targa50@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: >> Todd >> >> That is an excellent idea for members; no hassle or fuss....it should be >> about the dog.....not if the Owners pass "muster" >> >> Pat Lukos >> >> >> >> >> >> I vehemently disagree. Remember the whole puppy broker/miller as >> member >> debate? On a regional level, there DOES need to be an application >> process >> including signing a code of ethics and obtaining sponsors and I strongly >> recommend home checks. Without that, you'll have people joining (only) >> to market >> puppies and attempting to lend credibility to what they are doing. >> >> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC >> three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! >> >> visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> >> ============================================================================ >> POST is Copyrighted 2007. 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