I totally understand. Many Clubs are facing the same issues........and even a Club member being on the Parent Club Board cannot change these kind of problems. While I don't believe that disagreements or even "fighting" on the Parenb Club level can be blamed for Clubs folding.....I do know that times are changing......we are all getting older and families have so many forms of "entertainment" now...... that we are lucky in some ways that families are even seeking family pets.......let alone bringing them into Clubs to work and show. <G> AKC is not making it easier with extra requirements and obviously they are even struggling....and we are all running low on members willing to work or even able to work. It really is not an issue as far as where our Board members are from or lack of support from them in my opinion. Thanks for you input and the background Terra...........sadly we will be hearing it again I'm sure. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Terra Fairburn To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:05 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Regional Club failures Carolyn your point is very well taken. When our members and directors made the decision to fold the club we could have called a parent club Board Member and consulted with them first. But for me and others it was just a time in our lives when we decided to not want to try and continue to do shows and all all the requirements that AKC demands of us. We are aging, many of us do not want to spend the amount of money it takes to keep the club going, and we could not attract others who wanted to own, show or purchase show GSD's. Most people in the club did not even own GSD's let alone show in conformation. Our area has several obedience and performance groups that are not clubs but businesses. They do very well. Sometimes it is just a "sign of the times". Economy, aging population, and just plain tired of all the fighting going on at the parent club level. We all decided we could stay connected with our dogs and have simple parties, travel to dog shows and support our fri ends simply by just being there. We do not need a club to have fun! Running a club is a lot of work for some. Purchasing director and insurance is expensive. AKC has some very high expectations of what clubs must do. Prior to shows and afterward there is a lot that needs to happen. Don't even get me started on getting entries in on time and solving all the problems associated with that. Then of course there is the handlers and hope that they will support your show. Judges who are considered ethical and not political and yet will draw. Not having a glut of handlers will hurt your prospects of a successful show. Too many things that are way out of everyone's control. Weather posed huge problems for us most of the time. We have had shows flooded out, rained so hard we moved the ring under a covered building that eventually got struck by lightening, snow, and this last year the heat baked us all. No FUN! NO FUN! NO FUN! I have no idea how a board member from the parent club could help this. Again certain areas have pockets of people that are club oriented and own GSD's. We can travel there if we want to show. For years the GSDC Quad Cities did not have majors because they were a one day show. That was even harder. When I was elected to the presidency we worked hard on getting a two day show. Of course our options put us on the same weekend of another GSD club. Actually we had two options and both were same weekends of other shows. Several judges early on were asked to judge our show and their response was "your club is not a specialty club". So that was a shock too. We had a lot of proving to do...in the end who cares! It is just a club...we are getting too old for the drama. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================