Hi Dawnmarie, Its been forever since we e-mailed each other. I was reading your question to Lew and thought if its ok I would try to answer from my prospective. Or rather a past one. I have had a GSD since I was 19 years old that was 21 years ago ( ok you can do the math) anyway I had not lived anywhere near a regional club until I moved to Aurora Colorado 6 years ago. I would have killed for an opportunity for an associate membership in the past years. I just wanted to belong. I would always show up to events but couldn't manage the 3 hours each way for a meeting. I do know there are many out there who would also kill to live closer to a regional club but just don't. So if a regional club does indeed offer an associate membership and these people indeed do fill the requirements to belong to one I personally feel they should count towards the Regional club challenge. Granted I have no impact on the decision made by Lew and his group but this isn't slacking this is simply logistics. If these people do add points to a club via an associate membership then it means they are out there working their dogs and doing what it takes to belong to a club any way they can. My Best Beth VP Rocky Mt. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:43 PM To: klite3gsd@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; LEWIEB@xxxxxxx; CherlynGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Regional Challenge Addition Maybe? Lew, what is the reason for the Regional Challenge, what was the original purpose? I thought this Regional Challenge was about bringing club members closer together, bringing forth a common bond and love for doing what we all love to do, together... working as a team... rooting for each other, healthy competition against other clubs, together, i thought that was what this was about... why would a club want to take credit for "associate" members when they dont go to meetings together, show together, work together??? Unless i am misreading what was written, if so please explain to me what "associate" member meant. I dont know... it doesnt sit real fair to me for the clubs who are working hard at making a difference and competing honestly against each other, to invite "independants" to their club just for their "points" towards the Challenge...i mean if these "independants" are going to work your shows and committ to the club in some way.. sure no problem. but i personally wouldnt feel right accepting points from a person who wasnt a part of our club... if we all worked as hard as we could and didnt win but we built friendships and respect for one another... we tried and we did our best...oh well better luck next year, but if we won because we got members from , OH, MD, PA etc... because they had nowhere else to go... i personally wouldnt even be proud of that, wouldnt even want the win. Dawnmarie In a message dated 8/2/2005 1:09:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, klite3gsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > Sorry to post so late on this subject - but just in case it wasn't > mentioned - anyone who wants to participate in the Regional Challenge > is welcome to become associate members of the GSDC of Atlanta. You do > not have to attend meetings - we have several out-of-state members.=20 > We will be happy to include you and your dogs' achievements in our > club's totals next year. We are a strong, diverse club and look > forward to new members. Contact me or any other GSDC-Atlanta member > for more info. > > Thanks, > Kim McNamara > > <<<Lew wrote: > > Sally poses an interesting problem. What about those GSDCA members who do > not live close enough to a Regional Club but who would like to participate = > in the GSDCA Regional Challenge. I will ask my Committee for suggestions > but = > my first thoughts are like the Football teams who do not belong to a > Conferenc= > e but instead are classified as Independents. Maybe we should make a > classification for those who do not have a Regional Club in their area, they > could form a group and compete, wonder how many would be interested? >>> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================