In a message dated 3/11/2008 9:49:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, GSD0110 writes: As for changing the standard.... what is the point? Size has been left up to our judges disgression with DESIRED but not REQUIRED height limits.... It has worked for us so far (in my opinion).... That way if a FABULOUS dog is 27 inches tall we can use him to improve the breed and if we have a bitch that is 21 1/2 inches, but fantastic, we can use her genetics too to improve the breed in general also. Maybe you can give us the historical prospective. Thank you, Gary Lewis Gary--First of all,I would not change the standard regarding size or weight . I think our GSDs,like any other breed ,goes in cycles. We have changed in type over the years,and it's been mostly for the good. I really have no fear in our dogs getting too large. Because so many of GSD people( even those who used to be strictly conformation exhibitors) are doing rally ,obedience,herding ,agility,and the really oversized animals would not be able to compete. So I think the situation will regulate itself. I truly am not concerned at this point . Correct movement is more important. If they are not "built " right,they won't move right. I like a Stallion type dog,and I prefer substantial bitches, but movement come first. Lloyd Bracket used to say he like substantial bitches,because they were easy whelpers. Helen Miller Fisher **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================