I'll submit these forms soon. Personally, I am pleased to have 3 dogs eligible to be in this upcoming Redbook, based on VERY FEW PUPPIES produced -- but I am wondering is there any point to submitting the information? Are breeders going to pay attention to the information? Which breeder is actually going to look at the numbers? Are there true, independent breeders in this game anymore??.. you know.. the ones who used to pay attention to the numbers and the dogs who produced correct, outreaching, BALANCED progeny (based upon the standard, not some word a handler or judge uses to describe CRAP Quality). How about the rest of the educational information presented.. primarily the interview? For years I've read that trying to glean information as to how fantastically successful breeders accomplished "it", or do they have anything to share which I can use. There are breeders have produced more than one highly successful animal and ROM's ... I'm speaking of the many people who I'd like to see be interviewed --- Ann Brogden, The Graingers, and several others who have had legitimate, non-handler directed success with SMALL breeding programs and they are habitually passed over .. Why???? And just so we're clear -- I am not referring to myself. So, is there a point outside of "presenting" my animals in the Red Book? Will anyone actually look at the information and use it judiciously and actually breed to animals who haven't produced 50+ puppies a year or will it be another waste of time? Kathaleen ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================