[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rebuttal to James Moses from Dorothy Linn
- From: "Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
- To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:31:19 -0700
Since several longtime members do go to the GSDCA Nationals, why not set aside
some time to do the interviews? History is a very important part of the GSD
breed
and people that experienced it should be heard. Each person has their own
history to tell, while some disagree with another listening to all sides is a
great
way to learn. I have collected for many years the history, genetics, pedigrees
with
talking or writing to people in the GSD breed as this is important for
learning.
There are dedicated people in the GSD breed and once they are gone it is too
late
to listen to their stories. The people that experienced it tell the facts where
their relatives
do not always remember all of them. I listened to my German grandparents and my
parents
talk of GSDs and the dogs they brought here. My father knew Lloyd Brackett
talked of
him but I have probably forgotten more than I remember.
Changing the GSDCA Standard should not happen as history has been
set by people who knew the outcome and lived it. They decided what was best for
the GSD breed.
Max stated white was forbidden and the breeders in the USA agreed it was
undesirable to
form the DQ as were all the faded colors from the beginning undesirable.
Theresa
GSDCA Member
scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 8/21/14, Nancy Harper Mulvaney <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tom Brown was nominated
by the Centennial Chair to head up the historical
chair position and was subsequently approved by
unanimous vote of the then
current Board.
Tom and Vivian were in NY attending, I believe, the AKC
Delegate Meeting, Tom consulted the NY
telephone directory and lo and behold
he
discovered the Eristoff name,(Anne Tracey's married
name) an unusual name
indeed. Tom called and
was in touch with a gentleman relative who referred
Tom to another elderly lady relative who
stated she had some of Anne's
items in a
trunk, I believe in the attic. So Tom and Vivian made the
trip
to the house of the relative and
scanned some of the documents, and of
course
they were in Anne's hand - no computers in those days.
I believe Tom
planned to use some of the
information from the old New England issues in
the Centennial Booklet to be entitled "THE
EARLY YEARS". Tom and Vivian
also
spent many, many hours in the AKC archives going through
piles of
documents, letters, catalogues etc.
The original plan was to have an "EARLY
YEARS BOOKLET" for attendees. Those not
able to attend would be able to
order
"THE EARLY YEARS" at a later date. "THE
EARLY YEARS" booklet was
canned in
favor of a 100 year book as it was our 100th year. The 100
year
book is a work in
progress. The formation of a Historical
Committee was
suggested. As we lose many of
our older, experienced members we lose our
History. For example when the knowledgeable
Bob Penney passed away his
collection went
to the dumpster. What a pity!!! We need to be collecting
our
history while we can. Connie
Beckhardt's husband Ted is gratefully still
with us. As a pillar of our breed in her
day, I sincerely hope the
Historical
Committee has approached Ted regarding historical items
left
behind by Connie. Where is Connie's
history, will it also end up in the
dumpster? Let's hope
not.
Nancy
Harper-Mulvaney
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Joan Fox (Redacted sender "campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx"
COMMENTS:
Re
Jim's statement, " the original GSDCA Standard from
1928 was based on a
point system, 100 points
allotted, NOT ONE single point allotted for gait"
Fact: The original GSDCA
Standard was written by Anne Tracey (Eristoff)) in
1912 ( NOT 1928) prior to utilization of it
during the formation of the
GSDCA in 1913.
(Anne Tracey was one of the 7 founding members and one of
the
first GSDCA Presidents)
The original Standard's
first page DID indeed list a German type 100 point
system , BUT was followed on subsequent pages
by detailed Paragraphs with
specific
headings ( including GAIT) describing in detail the
virtues
required of the German Shepherd
Dog. Quote: " GAIT --- when running the
legs should move evenly and in harmony with
each other and with the back.
The strides
should be long and elastic, lifting the feet only just clear
of
the ground. The higher he lifts his feet,
the lower his speed. "
Re whites " doubt it really presents
problem for GSD's"
Fact : Whites and off colors (blues , livers,
paling colors) DID present a
growing problem
against preserving the integrity of the GSD Breed and
directly resulted In the creation of the
present Standard.!!
With a permissive
1943 Standard that stated ONLY that washed out colors
were " not preferred" and "
white dogs are not desirable" and were to be
DQ'd only " if showing albino
characteristics", the mismatched and
indiscriminate breeding of colors pro-ported to
be "unusual" and "rare" were
all too frequent. Popularity of the GSD was
extremely high at that time, and
puppy mills
rampant, with little or no attention to preservation of
character and breed type. Litters of blues ,
pale looking brown pups,
whites with tan
and lack mantels , were hawked to an unsuspecting and
gullible public at prices hundreds of dollars
more than " a mere black and
tan"
puppy. I am familiar with these situations, as my first GSD
pup was
purchased in 1957 , and thank
goodness I was steered clear of these
disasters. ($50 for my pet pup sired by Ch
Llano Estacados Fernando)
The defense against this destruction was to
create a breed Standard with
teeth. The
1968 Standard of today took from 1959 to1968 to craft
with
COMBINED GSDCA Boards AND MEMBERSHIP
Input, documented in Minutes and
Presidents
Reports appearing in the GS Dog Review in those years.
It is interesting to see that
some want HISTORY TO REPEAT ITSELF, which is
certainly evident in the parallel wording of
the 1943 Standard and the
"revised
GSD Standard "
============================================================================
POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original
author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind
are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the
Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its
administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in
any post.
ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY
MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS
PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY
FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE
PROSECUTED.
For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:
http://showgsd.org/mail.html
NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
============================================================================
Other related posts:
