[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Reasons to spay/neuter before they leave home
- From: "Laura Havis" <lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>, <DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx>, <RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:44:30 -0600
This sounds very reasonable! However, those of us that don't know you and
your background, only see what's written in the posts. As with others,
sometimes what's written sounds harsh, when that may not be the intent.
In your posts, it also shows that you love the dogs!
Sincerely,
Laura
----- Original Message -----
From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: <DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx>; <lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:35 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Reasons to spay/neuter before they leave home
Thanks Deb.
I was relating to an experience I had many, many years ago volunteering for
a group that cared for handicapped/poor children, many in desperate
circumstances. One night after a really bad experience, I was at my DM's
kitchen table sobbing uncontrollably and DM put her foot down; it was time
for me
to take a break. I certainly wasn't going to do anyone any good the way I
was feeling. DM, as usual, was right.
No matter how good the intentions if/when we reach the breaking point,
it's time to take a break. That's all, no more, no less.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 11/16/2011 9:19:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx writes:
I do not think Kathy's post was condescending, I think it was
understanding. When I first read Colleen's email I started to get really
upset and
started to prepare a post, that was not very nice,... However I understand
her
pain,
Regards
Deb
In a message dated 11/16/2011 5:30:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I'm not sure if it was your intension, but your e-mail sound very
condescending! This person sounds very upset and obviously cares about
dogs. Her e-mail may have been misdirected but cruelty to others makes
all
of us look bad.
Sincerely,
Laura
----- Original Message -----
From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: <RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:07 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Reasons to spay/neuter before they leave home
Thank you Pauline. I have learned to read through to the ends of posts
listed before responding.
Colleen, while I can tell you must have had some recent experience that has
effected you greatly, such a post to this list is misdirected and totally
uncalled for.
Maybe it's time to take a break from rescue work sweetheart?
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 11/16/2011 6:51:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx writes:
Before I answer this post with a blistering response, please explain what
you are talking about and why you would send it to this list? As your post
reads right now, whatever the reason behind it, heaping condemnation and
sneeringly pushing HSUS in OUR faces is not the way to go about
rectifying
whatever wrongs you are inferring for which this group is somehow
responsible!
Pauline...who also assists with rescue
In a message dated 11/16/2011 1:11:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Msg: #3 in digest
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:06:05 -0800
Subject: Reasons to spay/neuter before they leave home
From: Colleen Donnelly <colleenshundehaus@xxxxxxxxx>
I am exhausted hearing sad tales from people. It is wearing me out.
But, I realize it does not connect with breeders until it is said.
And, while I know this does not connect and matter to 99% of you, it may
with that loving 1%.
The pups you bred and pushed out into the world do not matter.
Especially
the *companion* dogs...the ones you thought were not show worthy. They
are
surplus...they do not matter.
Those pups were bought by people who bought pups from *champion stock*.
They signed your silly little papers with a sneer. Yah, I'll
spay/neuter.
Riiiight.
As someone who assists with rescue, I am pissed off.
I'm tired of answering questions about spaying and neutering when
breeders
should have been doing that to begin with. But I still will.
I am sick to death of answering why the big dark puddle of nipple
discharge
happens with a bitch who should never have been bred. But she wasn't
sold.
Oh no..not sold. She was given away to a backyard breeder. What can you
say
to them?????
It never changes. Ever.
I understand, COMPLETELY, why organizations like Peta say humans suck
at
caregiving. They make me want to join in.
It begins at the beginning. Do something right, or piss off.
Colleen Donnelly
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