I guess the consensus is that we members are not customers of the Board, and we ARE the GSDCA. I know how hard the Board and the Committees work and I know that the membership appreciates that. But, as Molly pointed out, we give the direction and the Board follows our direction, not the other way around. There is LOTS of legislation popping across the country and in the Federal arena today, so I'll leave this now. Some changes in some of the National Organizations that are interesting. I'll be posting more on the GSDCA - Legislation Aware Facebook page in a while for you all to check out. Stormy On May 3, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Pat Galambos <baerentatze312@xxxxxxx> wrote: Well I look at the membership much as We The People of the U.S. voting for our preferred politicians. We elect the Board to represent us, trusting them to abide by the membership wishes. Therefore the membership is not the customer, the dues and event fees can be equated to taxes to support the club. I'm aware that the big difference is that the Board is voluntary and does not draw a salary, but the premise except for that is the same as our government. We are not customers. Perhaps we could consider it as in the national level, the government works for We The People, with the analogy of the Board being unpaid interns working for the membership/employer. Regards, Pat Sent from my iPad On May 3, 2013, at 11:51 AM, MORGAN LEWIS <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: CUSTOMERS FURNISH MONEY, SO IN THAT SENSE, WE ARE. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUIT SPENDING OUR MONEY!! � Morgan� Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA President Last Hope of� Georgia 501c3 "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ________________________________ From: "Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx" <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> To: stormy435@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] ReCustomers? /board meeting Been sitting on some thoughts about all of this since the meeting. Yes I� attended - 14 hours on the phone over 2 days. Huge cauliflower ear! LOL Have read a few answers.......I am definitely not a customer, nor am I a� consistent.� Since the members OWN the club, I consider myself to be a part� owner� 1/2500 of the club.� Small amount, but a voice� regardless. I was particularly disturbed when there was a discussion about putting� something out to the members for a vote....then a board member stated if they� did not like how the members voted the board would overturn the decision as they� had the right to do so!� � WHAT!!!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a bit far off but heard a discussion between 2 officers where one� said that could be done, the other said no way.� One of them is a member of� the parliamentary society. Yes, the one arguing vehemently can't be done. There is NO WAY members of the board that this is going to happen......� that would be a very fierce fight and I really don't think we need this type of� divisiveness again. A bit of power apparently can be a dangerous thing for some.� The� board is only the tail. Molly Member GSDCC, GSDCA, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC In a message dated 5/3/2013 10:48:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,� stormy435@xxxxxxxxx writes: During� the last Board Meeting, a couple of the Board members kept referring to us PC� members as 'customers.'� I know that AKC refers to their member Clubs and� the Club members as 'customers' and I understand their rationale, but I don't� think of myself as a Customer of the GSDCA Board.� I think of the Board� as a group of people that are working for the PC Members, and doing their best� to do what the Members would want from them. Could we discuss this?� (Calmly, please :-).� What is your thought about what the relationship is� between the Board� and the Members it represents?� OR maybe� I should just go get another cup of tea and forget it? Stormy V. Hope https://www.facebook.com/GSDCA.LegislationAwareness https://www.facebook.com/CaRPOC.CaliforniaResponsiblePetOwnersCoalition ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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