I am not sure where the original email is for this, if it stemmed from my post about the TC in PA, but one reason i respect this certification is because those that have been the evaluators for this are people who take the position serious and respectfully. There should be a strict criteria for those desiring to be a senior evaluator. We do not have to like the evaluator but they should know behavior and temperament of a dog, typically a shepherd, but this test is open to all breeds, although this is a GSDCA-TC. I think someone who desires to be a senior evaluator should have at least titled a dog in some sort of performance title, obedience, schutzhund, have experience in behavior or be a reputable dog trainer etc... they should have experience in breeding, there could be a written test, perhaps, however, not all of us are good at written tests <g>. just kicking around some ideas but i do agree there needs to be more Sr evaluators for each region, perhaps two per state even, IF i say IF there are enough people around with experience. As i have shared, my GSDCA-WDA club respects this certification because of the idea behind it and we have to remember not all dogs pass and the evaluators must be ready to handle a situation if a dog has an aggressive reaction to one of the stations of this test. Perhaps a workshop would be appropriate, given by whomever the PC feels is qualified, typically the present Regional Sr Evaluator or use anyone of them to come out. I think the PC should pay the expense for the Teaching Trainer for this workshop to go out to these workshops as the Sr Evaluators do not make any money for being a Sr Evaluator. They get travel and a gift from the club (if lucky) and that's it. Maybe once every six months each Region host a "TC trainers workshop" and those interested to become a Sr Evaluator pay their own travel to this... i have a lot of thoughts about this,,, but not enough time to type. anyone else have ideas? Jim perhaps we can get you out to CT to do ours :) DM In a message dated 10/28/2008 3:22:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: What we really need to keep in mind is that many Clubs cannot afford to fly in an Evaluator at a great expense when they are limited to the entry they can take. We really need Evaluators from all over with easy access......so my guess is that you need at least 6 more in order to start seeing more Temperament Tests. It's kind of a 'catch 22' situation at this point with only 3 or 4 Evaluators to serve all the Clubs all over. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: DstnGSD1@xxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re TC and Evaluators Hi List I just found all the posts regarding the TC. Please let me clarify a few things. In order to become an evaluator you basically have to apprentice with the Evaluators until the committee feels you are ready to conduct tests on your own. This is a lengthy process for a few reasons #1 there are not a lot of tests. We need local clubs to host them. We have been encouraging clubs to have them and have asked the evaluators to contact area clubs. I feel this is starting to work. A candidate needs more than 1 test a year to perfect their skills. #2 We evaluate their progress after the tests they work and at the National. This takes time. Some people don't wish to put the time and travel in to learn and demonstrate their capabilities. We do want to see that the evaluator candidate will keep the tests as a top priority, within reason. When a candidate is ready The committee will decide to make them an Evaluator. The committee currently is composed of Dalene McIntire, Gene Gray and myself. They must demonstrate they can conduct all facets of a temperament test. Evaluators are area specific. Right now all areas are covered except California. That is what I have told people who have approached me. Evaluators typically have experience in some training and performance venues, and demonstrate they can interpret subtle behaviors exhibited in the test. Bob Penny, Dick Whalen and Dalene McIntire decided I should succeed Bob. They were the currant temp committee. My Time assisting Bob was cut short by his sudden death. So this has been a time of learning. I am in the process of revamping the Futurity Observer process and Have the help of a few board members I will bring this to the January Board meeting. If anyone has any questions I would encourage them to contact me _TotalDogman@xxxxxxxx (mailto:TotalDogman@xxxxxxx) I have put my e-mail on all correspondences. In closing I will assure you that there is no O'le Boys thing going on. Our Only goal is to promote good temperament in our wonderful Breed. thanx Jim **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics ââ?¬â?? check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redirhttp:/ /www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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