Our club (GSDC of So. AZ) is trying to do just that, still need approval for the 3rd day. It obviously draws more people and this way we will regain our solid majors once again. However, we will still have one show per day. Our show chair, Dianna Van Erem, is feverishly working on all of this. I am glad I am not a show chair. It's not an easy job. Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carolyn Martello Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:49 PM To: firethorntemplete@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re; NO... towels for throwing, jes good planning!! This causes me to bring up something I already have in the past.......and like Christine I'm not sure anything will change one iota........but I just gotta say.....especially after Tom brings up the cost and what is causing some of us to leave the Conformation shows and just stay home. The new Review has an advertisement on Page 2 that I think a few show giving Clubs should look at and give some real thought to. What a great idea!! YEP......I'm talking multiple show weekends again!! THESE Clubs are really thinking outside the box......and cause an Exhibitor to really give it some thought! Even though it is a long ways away it makes it more of a 'worth the chance' long trip. <G> A Specialty show Friday afternoon ( allowing late or early arrivals to get one show in ) ......two shows on Saturday...allowing the "possibility" of two majors....and a show Sunday morning ( allowing long distance travelers time to get 'on the road' early ) NOW THIS IS INNOTIVE THINKING!! Possibility of four wins in one weekend.....ONE trip....less Motel time......less weekends away from home....( for exhibitor AND handler ) and the show is right AT the Hotel site.........and a panel of judges that goes together well. These kind of show weekends gives exhibitors more time to stay at home to join Tom in sitting in the sun looking at good dogs!! <G> KUDOS to this Texas weekend!! Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Elkins To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] towels for throwing,snapping, curling up and napping I've been in the forest for quite awhile, and when I got back I saw Christine's email "Throwing in the towel...". I enjoy reading what she writes because she's always thoughtful and flinty. I find myself basically in agreement with her takes, but view The Decline and Fall of the American GSD Empire from a slightly different angle. I've always done my level best to be non-controversial in all opinions, nonetheless my takes here may not all find universal acceptance. Be that as it may, I think that if you "know the dogs", and you want to continue showing in conformation, things have evolved to the point where you either show at specialties and go broke or show at all-breeds and go crazy. If you stay at a motel and show one dog at a typical two show specialty weekend, and you use a top handler (pretty much required if you plan on winning much), you're going to drop say 600 bucks or so. If it's a cluster, much more. So if you have a good one and he/she finishes in a grand to tal of 20 weekends starting from puppy through open and maybe a couple special outings..... not cheap. Not to mention futurities and nationals. Much higher. And when you finish that one you get to start another ! The average Joe's that I know can't afford that on a regular basis. And if you're a senior on fixed income, forggettaboutit. You can probably cut costs by doing local all-breeds, but then you're eventually going to have to factor in the inevitable costs of psychiatric care. The other reality is, things change. That includes everything except...nothing. Norma said it well. I'm not sure who it was that observed that when he looked up into the stands at the Beaumont National, it looked like they'd emptied out all the local retirement homes to give the seniors a pleasant outing. Cracked me up, and I was one of them. There really aren't very many new conformation GSD people.The economy, costs, politics, inevitable shifting interests, etc. Lots of reasons why things have changed, so I think it's pointless and ultimately probably fruitless to think it can be reversed. It just is as it is. I still like reading the List though, and sitting in the sun looking at dogs, even if just a few. Christine, you're brilliant, and Norma, I'm with you, so..... 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