In a message dated 7/10/2005 8:32:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx writes: but do we not accept pre-trial herding pass/fail scores for AOE? Ht and PT count for all of the PC awards. You know, there may be a feeling that one title or another may be "easier". It depends on the dog. The HT and/or PT aren't easy if your dog won't herd, wont STOP (!!!) or takes "fetch" literally and brings the sheepies back with holes in them. (Trust me, the AKC frowns on that!) A CD isn't easy if your dog has stay issues or won't stand for exam or turns into a tracking dog for the heel off leash. If you don't have really (!!!!) good attention, just forget about Rally until you get it. Dear God, let's not go down the road of this venue/title is harder than that one. Lets just celebrate HOWEVER people choose to enjoy their relationship with their dog and be sincere in our congratulations! I root for the GSD(s) no matter what ring I am standing outside of, Group or performance and when I see a wonderful handler/dog relationship in the performance ring, when those dark eyes look at their person w/ that "What next", "I got it!" look, I don't care WHICH ring it is, I'm giddy! Whatever achievements I enjoy with my dog aren't diminished by some else's achievements, they are enhanced, because I can look at/talk to/e-mail that person, say "Good job!", "Nice dog!", "Way to go!!!!" and know EXACTLY what they are feeling. We've all (well most of us) have held a puppy who didn't take their first breath. We've held that old, MUCH loved companion and said good-by. If those experiences don't teach us to cherish accomplishments, what will? Be vocal, sincere and generous with your praise. It's ALL good! Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================