It isn't even recognized as a qualifier for ROMC points in Canada, I can see it not being in the same realm as a working title, but like some have said it is an accomplishment received by those who can do it themselves. I have a couple of puppy buyers that have achieved these titles and how excited they'd be if the knew it helped their sire and dam to achieve greater heights. Again encourage! JMOH Too :) Maria, Michael and Katlyn McDonald Kohlein German Shepherd Dogs Reg. http://members.shaw.ca/kohlein/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Emilie To: inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rally It seems "odd" to me that the people who are saying that Rally and PT's are easy are the same people who we don't see competing in these venues? I do agree that a RN or PT should not get a club achievement pin. But they should be recognized by the parent club as a working title. JMHO Emilie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================