SURE........as long as there is some way to let them know WHY!!! It doesn't do any good for a few of us to not show up! There is a GSDC of Long Beach..... So if the GSD people don't show up because we have people like Paul and you keeping us informed.....but 2,400 other dogs show up....does Eukanuba care...are they worried about losing shows......or even aware!? This is a powerful Org. That's my point. We need UNITED effort.....help from other major Organizations and Breeds and Stores and Vets and AKC to be able to even put a dent in it. HOW do we incorporate all this available knowledge into power......make them understand and become willing to help us. We're but a ripple in the ocean until we do..... While Paul is trying to call us to arms......and help us understand the battle, we are losing the war. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Peggy To: marhaven@xxxxxxx Cc: gsdman@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: RALEEF QUESTIONS Well, this is slightly off the mark here...but what about passing the word to NOT support any shows or events of any kind that are held in Long Beach, CA? There is no dog breeding of any kind allowed in Long Beach... and yet, this is where the AKC is taking the Eukanuba Invitational next year (again!) Check it out -- not only BSL, but no breeding of dogs at all! Why anyone involved in dogs would conduct any business at all in Long Beach is beyond me...and the Eukanuba pet show is not even a place where one can earn points of any kind...why go? I believe there is an all-breed club there--don't enter, and don't go! Make sure they know why you are not going to spend even 39cents in Long Beach! If a place is that unfriendly to dogs, someone tell me why any dog person should go there!!!! Now, there's a place to start -----------------!!! Peggy Carolyn wrote: This is a great post from Jack, he asks the same questions I have asked myself many times. WHAT CAN WE DO! There are times I am overwhelmed by what is coming over the list .....of bills all over the Country that it is often more than we can deal with. We call, we sent e-mails, we even write...then get hit with 10 more. We're buried... What Peggy has sent.... in getting the GSD proclaimed the "official dog of the State of New York is a great start because we need to blitz this country with information on how much the GSD has been a part of the History of this Country. Officials that are pushing these bills through need to be reminded that the GSD has played a large part in our foreign wars from World War 11 until now in Iraq...helping our servicemen, guiding the blind...avalanche dogs, Search & Rescue dogs, therapy dogs, Police Dogs, etc. We need to get more offensive, but we don't know how...... We need to raise the bar on awareness of just exactly how much REVENUE is brought into the area where Westminster, and Eukanuba shows are held....much like our Super Bowls and Play Offs in Sport. The Politicians in those Cities need to know just how much these events of Pure Bred dogs bring into their coffers..... The Public and Politicians need to know that this is an event and an era that they are close to losing because of the radicals blitzing us with these wild fires of Bills. The Animal Planet ( if they will ) that features these Events needs to have some of this information on how these bills affect the good honest Breeders made available and presented to the Public that watches. If all the Breeders are taken out.....they will all lose huge Revenue. The Public needs to have this information up front and in their face. We cannot continue to just keep stomping out the wild fires of bills that are blitzing us.... The Politicians that are blindly pushing these Bills thinking they are taking care of mankind need to be reminded just how much revenue is brought in from Pure Bred Dogs with our shows, our Vets, the local stores, dog food, etc. and brings pleasure to the public as their much loved and needed pets. The Vets need to get on this bandwagon also. Most Vets that cater to Breeders are the most successful Vets in an area. The Depts. of Sheriff and Police need to be made aware that their sources for their dogs are about to be put out of business. We need the help of AKC, Vets, Pet Stores, Dog Food Companies, Vet Catalogs, etc. We can't do it all on this List. Paul has made us aware and he keeps us up to date and works hard fighting this and raising our awareness....but we need to know how to back him up with POWER. We need the Public on OUR SIDE and INFORMED.....maybe the Politicians will listen then. We need to expose these organizations for what they really are.... HOW DO WE DO ALL THIS? We're ready.........we're willing .......and we are overwhelmed. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jack kilgour" <gsdman@xxxxxxx >Subject: RALEEF QUESTIONS Paul, Tell us more about RALEEF. Is there a plan to have a website or a link/page from the Parent Club's site? Is the committee looking at writing a mission statement, goals or objectives? How can we help or what can we do (in addition to donating to the cause) when RALEEF shows up at a Futurity or show like the Triangle? If I were to walk away with information/brochures from the RALEEF table, should I start posting it on bulletin boards in pet stores/veterinarian offices/super markets? Are there organizations run by different breed clubs that have similar goals and objectives? If so, will RALEEF study those organizations and learn about what is going right and what isn't? You know, I read your initial post and had these questions, but admittedly I took a wait and see attitude. Keep telling us what this committee means to us and how we can play a role in the helping to save our breed and our sport. It appears as though there isn't going to be an overnight solution to the dilemma we are in, so keep the faith and be patient with what you might perceive as apathy. The stakes are high, and as one fancier in the big sea of purebred dogs, I might initially think there isn't really anything I could do to really make a difference. Educate us. Refer us to online resources (if/when available) and keep coming back with the message. You know what they said about the time it took to build Rome... JMO... jack Jack Kilgour Kijoda Kennels Reg'd 604 331 1164 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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