Penny, I read your post asking the good people on the List not to quit and leave the Breed to the rest of the survivors. The last few weeks have been of such quality and quantity that it makes me wonder if it really is about the dogs. There have been so many hours and hours of endlessly savaging each other that it's no wonder that more and more people are asking themselves" how hard do I want to work to be in an organization that is so screwed up?" And there seems to be a growing number who are answering "not much!" And, it seems impossible to get these people to go private. I have come to believe that theirs egos are so weak that they have to get into List brawls to feel fulfilled. Nobody wants to leave the Breed in the hands of a bunch of anencephalic hypothyroids, but it is possible to drive out all those who are on the List for the right reasons. I was looking forward to voting for the next slate of officers, but then, out came the machetes. Now I don't feel I can make an intelligent vote because of all the posts on the List that listed all the genetic and social defects of each candidate to the point that I'm frightened to vote for any of them! If this club continues in its current mode, it wouldn't surprise me if it became a black hole and imploded into itself. If that happens, would we have only All-Breed shows left for conformation? How much future for the Breed would there be with that kind of predicament? Too bad the List does not even come close to realizing the unlimited potential of a forum of communication like this. Yes, there are great things that do appear here and make me optimistic about the focus of the List, but then the next post ruins it. And for those who arrogantly say"get out of the kitchen," it's not the heat of the kitchen that's intolerable, it's the stench of the cooks! It is up to the rest of us to change the current situation. Charlie Moore Lovestead Farm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================