I have talked to Randy C. once at a National....love the Guy....but the first time I saw him judge he put up a 9-12 puppy male BOB at a specialty show years ago when specialty shows were much larger than they are now,,,I said to myself....that guy has guts......well that guy judges dogs and does what HE thinks is right!...I'd love to see him judge a National....too bad I won't get to vote for him....Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 5:12:36 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ]  Quiting is easy. In a message dated 10/2/2011 11:53:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx writes:  My  opinions, as yours, have a right to be heard.  I guess trying to insult  someone is a way for you to shut them down.  Not this old queen  buddy!  And I thought we were friends!   I have always had, and always will have great admiration for Randy.  He is a bright competent and avid supporter of our breed.  He is one of our  members who understands what is going on, and one of those I am proud to be able  to call a friend.  I often do not make myself as clear as could be done with this  media.   I used Randy's post only to point out that leaving the  problem will not solve it.  I too am not pleased with some of the things  done by our board and do not like that the same people run the club over and  over and get elected to judge the National every year.   But, I  do recognize that the membership elects them, and I always do respect those  who  care enough to vote.  People like Randy are why our club does continue to exist and why our breed  is still strong and our reputation intact.  I have tried for three years to  get Randy to judge the National and for three years I have failed.  Not by  anything he has done, but by my inability to get the message out there that we  need new people and we need them to help strengthen our club.  But, I want to keep trying. I don't want to throw in the towel and I sure  don't want to lose the members who some day may help to bring about  change.  What I have always tried to say is that the fight is not over. I ran twice  for President of this club and was twice defeated.  That was the decision  of the voters who voted for Dan Smith and Lew Bunch, two very good men who  have dedicated themselves to our club.  That was the decision of the  membership, and they should and must be heard.  I haven't given up on the GSDCA and I would hope others would not either.  And, if Randy will allow me to do it again, I will try, with your help, to elect  him to judge in 2013.  There are few I respect more than Randy or Ed. Don't quit, fight  harder.  And, after all those noble words, let me be clear. I will never again be on  the board. 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