It is not rare, at smaller shows where there isnt a major in anything in the group, and you win it from the classes its very frustrating as you are thinking (Please let it be a major in Valhunds, Shelties etc). I showed a scottie bitch a while back and she won 2 group I's from the classes.. NO MAJORS for her, she later went on to win BOB at the National Specialty in 2000 However, in CA, there are always majors in something in the herding group. You can bank on one in Bearded Collies, Aussies or Corgis, but then again the herding group is very strong on the west coast. Mike Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stormy Hope" <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: "Show GSD List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 10:49:58 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Question- Group Wins Is it rare that a Group One does not have a 5 point major? I know that the person who is awarded a G1, gets the points awarded to the highest point winner in that group, but I am trying to imagine an AB Herding group and not one of the breeds garnered a 5 point major. Let me know how ignorant I am, I can deal with it:-) Stormy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================