In a message dated 11/5/2006 9:36:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 11/5/2006 6:32:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx writes: Its my understanding that both the sire and dam have to be carriers I doubt this and the reson I do is, I have a bitch that produced esophogus in her first litter, then I bred her a different way but to a dog that had (after I bred her) produced 2 in a litter. I got none... Is it luck of the draw or is it a single dog issue? Don't know.. Deb That's my understanding too, Patty and Deb, that it comes from both sides. You can breed the bitch a different way, and if the sire isn't a carrier, you'll (still) have some progeny that are carriers (taking a gene from mom; the math should be 25%). If dad is a carrier, you should have 25% with symptoms, 50% carriers and 25% clear. Of course, in a single litter, nothing works out mathematically like that! I think a big part of the problem we have with this is that some dogs show little or no symptoms and get into the gene pool. So sorry to the original poster. Have the x-ray, it's safe. You'll know for sure what you are dealing with (could also be PRAA). You'll hear stories about some mega puppies that grew up to have nice lives, some that died young from aspiration pneumonia and everything in between. This is a tough call to have to make with your first litter! As for what to do with your gal, that too is a decision only you can make after some serious soul searching, but for sure, now that you know she is a carrier, if you decide to breed her, you'll have to be extra careful to find a male that isn't, keeping in mind that mega is still something you'd have to "breed away from" with her progeny too. Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================